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[Simbi Laveau]

Darkwind, on 04 September 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

The witches and Pagans in my community dress like hippies for the most apart. The women wear colorful long gauze skirts and t shirt or tank tops. The men in jeans and T shirts. (This is Florida)  Ritual wear is usually depends on the coven or circle and how formal you want to be. Cloaks, robes, vestments, slacks, skirts or nothing at all. Color in ritual can be important. When calling in the quarters;  green or brown for north, yellow for east  red for south, blue for west.  Of course different traditions use different colors. Color in ritual can also be related to seasons too. A coven or circle ritual in full regalia can be a very beautiful and colorful.  Gardenian Wiccans mostly ritual in the nude.  That needs some getting use to.  Not all naked people are equal.

Colors are very important in voodoo and Santeria .
If you are doing certain deity worship,or calling down the deity ,you must have kn the proper colors ,or they will not answer your request.
In Palo Mayombe ,they will actually attack you,if you have on improper colors,and women can not be menstruating
So I have other clothes....but I do not wear them socially ,ever.
Obatala is pure white. Sometimes you will see island types in all white. The women usually also wear white turban .I see it a lot in nyc,especially in the outer boroughs  ,you know who their patron is when you see that .
Also in orthodox Judaism,I believe sometimes the men wear all white on certain days,but I don't know the origins or details why .

Edited by Simbi Laveau, 04 September 2012 - 11:03 PM.

[Darkwind]

My Pagan minister follows as Yuruba path, so I know about the Orishas. I don't know how he got into it. Odd path for a southern white guy, but it works for him.   You are into Palo, tell me more if you can. How did you get into that?  Santeria is really common around here, we have a lot of people from the Caribbean.

[ZaraKitty]

Not so secret now!

[gnostic-deity]

i tried wicca, but just didnt feel it. i guess i didnt like the rituals. i consider myself pagan.

[Darkwind]

I know what you mean about Wicca, too much dogma.  Paganism for  X Catholics.  I still like getting together with other Pagans for rituals. My group is eclectic and come from different paths.  Our rituals reflect that.  The rituals I do are usually Bardic circles where we share art, poetry and song.

[Seeker79]

Pagans are some of my favorite people. I'm good friends with a local priestess running a shop. She has me teach a class once a year for her group. ( shamanic journey/astral projection). Such open and loveing people.

Edited by Seeker79, 05 September 2012 - 05:55 PM.

[Simbi Laveau]

Seeker79, on 05 September 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Pagans are some of my favorite people. I'm good friends with a local priestess running a shop. She has me teach a class once a year for her group. ( shamanic journey/astral projection). Such open and loveing people.

My mom was a very simple Italian girl from queens. She ended up with me. My friends range from rockstars to punk rockers to witches and transgender people....
Trapeze artists and martial artists .Herbalists and reiki masters...

My mom was always ... oh my...
However,one time,she said to me ,"you know,people may say all your friends are odd ,but they are the nicest people".
Generally,people who follow the beat of their own drum,have no time to be pretentious ,and are just honest about who and what they are.
People who strive to conform ,are always wearing a mask,and tend to be liars.
Just my experience .

[Simbi Laveau]

Darkwind, on 04 September 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

My Pagan minister follows as Yuruba path, so I know about the Orishas. I don't know how he got into it. Odd path for a southern white guy, but it works for him.   You are into Palo, tell me more if you can. How did you get into that?  Santeria is really common around here, we have a lot of people from the Caribbean.

Google Sallie Ann Glassman.
White Jewish woman from Maine. She's one of the bigger voodou priestesses is new Orleans ,at this time. She just opened a wellness center for the community . I want to go do acupuncture there.
You never know why someone ends up on the path.

In reality ,Palo is very similiar to Santeria . It's considered a dark version of it.
There are many kinds as well .Mayombe,Monte ....some of those,are darker than others as well.
I personally steer clear of Palo Monte .

Palo,has certain aspects,that can be considered a bit...dicey ?
Mainly the cauldron .
To properly call zarabanda,you must have a proper cauldron  .

A cauldron is an actual cauldron ,with very specific items inside of it .
When you read about weird people with human bones in their garage,in NJ,I guarantee Its a practitioner of palo .
A lot of em in NJ. Its a lot of items .
I have a mini cauldron,and anything organic required,I have plastic miniatures of ,that tend to be more available around Halloween.
Its symbolic ,so Zarabanda should be fine with it.Thats how I look at it .

Palo also involves a lot of spirit input .
Much more than santeria .
The dieties correlate to santeria orishas to a degree so...
Did you want to know something specific ?
Not a lot of books on it,but there are.

[Darkwind]

When I was visiting Georgia with a friend I went by this place that was like a Cauldrons R Us.  Cauldrons of every size. They had some huge ones. If I had had my van or the room in my friends car I would have had one of those big bad babies. Some them you could have used for a hot tub. Maybe someday I can go back and get one. I'll just have to find somebody to drive in the mountains, I can't drive in mountains, I get sick big time.

You know what happens with a witch loses her faith, she holds a yard sale. You really end up collecting a lot of stuff. I have a sword but much of it I get from the dollar store or make myself. My candles are the only thing I am fussy about.  I do candle magic so I want one that burns down complete.  In my mind the moment  the candle goes out on its own the spell is cast.  

I don't use Gods in my magic, I find they are more trouble than they are worth. The greatest power in magic is yourself. As Above, So Below.

[Dash--]

Just adding in.Ya'll are a treat to read. .My oldest daughter is a Pagan.(and a member here).
Sorry,nothing else to add ,but the more ya'll talk,the more I'm learning.

[karmakazi]

I've dabbled with paganism / witchcraft in the past, but at the time I was in a group of unstable characters so it wasn't a very positive experience.

Lately though, I've been having the urge to return to some version of it... though it would likely be some blend including buddhism and rather improvised on what works for me.  It's mostly about rebuilding a connection to nature and energy that I feel is missing, leaving quite a big hole in my life.

Edited by karmakazi, 06 September 2012 - 02:45 PM.

[Seeker79]

Darkwind, on 06 September 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

When I was visiting Georgia with a friend I went by this place that was like a Cauldrons R Us.  Cauldrons of every size. They had some huge ones. If I had had my van or the room in my friends car I would have had one of those big bad babies. Some them you could have used for a hot tub. Maybe someday I can go back and get one. I'll just have to find somebody to drive in the mountains, I can't drive in mountains, I get sick big time.

You know what happens with a witch loses her faith, she holds a yard sale. You really end up collecting a lot of stuff. I have a sword but much of it I get from the dollar store or make myself. My candles are the only thing I am fussy about.  I do candle magic so I want one that burns down complete.  In my mind the moment  the candle goes out on its own the spell is cast.  

I don't use Gods in my magic, I find they are more trouble than they are worth. The greatest power in magic is yourself. As Above, So Below.

I want a cauldron. I always wanted to make huge batch of stew for like 100 people.

[Simbi Laveau]

Darkwind, on 06 September 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

When I was visiting Georgia with a friend I went by this place that was like a Cauldrons R Us.  Cauldrons of every size. They had some huge ones. If I had had my van or the room in my friends car I would have had one of those big bad babies. Some them you could have used for a hot tub. Maybe someday I can go back and get one. I'll just have to find somebody to drive in the mountains, I can't drive in mountains, I get sick big time.

You know what happens with a witch loses her faith, she holds a yard sale. You really end up collecting a lot of stuff. I have a sword but much of it I get from the dollar store or make myself. My candles are the only thing I am fussy about.  I do candle magic so I want one that burns down complete.  In my mind the moment  the candle goes out on its own the spell is cast.  

I don't use Gods in my magic, I find they are more trouble than they are worth. The greatest power in magic is yourself. As Above, So Below.

What state are you in ? You can order a cauldron on line,and just have it delivered .
I have two very tiny ones . One is dedicated to Ogun,and one is my Palo prende .
I got them both at Originals Products ,in the Bronx. They carry cauldrons ,and do mail order .

[Simbi Laveau]

Seeker79, on 06 September 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

I want a cauldron. I always wanted to make huge batch of stew for like 100 people.

http://www.originalb...ywords=cauldron

Email them. They have different sizes,and cheaper ones .

[Simbi Laveau]

karmakazi, on 06 September 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

I've dabbled with paganism / witchcraft in the past, but at the time I was in a group of unstable characters so it wasn't a very positive experience.

Lately though, I've been having the urge to return to some version of it... though it would likely be some blend including buddhism and rather improvised on what works for me.  It's mostly about rebuilding a connection to nature and energy that I feel is missing, leaving quite a big hole in my life.

Being with the wrong group ,and ruin any spiritual endeavor . Go solo ,and feel it out for yourself .
Having guidance always helps though . Maybe we should make a pagan thread ,for just asking questions in regard to pagan ritual and so forth.
People interested could get a few view points,and do what feels comfortable ?

In any case,my suggestion would be to read Lady Rheas book ,and try a spell .
You can modify them to your taste or need,and she touches on Buddhist,wiccan,and even Santeria workings .
It's a candle magick book .
The very first printing of this book ,which was very different that this incarnation ,was the book that influenced me the most ,when I started ,and its what I come back to ,when I just want something direct and powerful .
You can find it cheaper on amazon I think .
The Enchanted Candle,by Lady Rhea .
I also suggest you just start reading about what calls to you .
http://www.booksamil...a/9780806525785