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#31    JGirl

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:32 PM

View PostNeognosis, on 31 October 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

YOUR BODY
YOUR CHOICE
fine, then it's also YOUR financial responsibility

You want the choice, you have to pay for it. Or give the father the same parental rights as you.

yes, i agree with this as well.
you decide what will happen, you take the responsibility for that decision, as you are expected to with any decision you make about anything. this is no different, just more controversial.


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:51 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 31 October 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Here's an idea, if a man doesn't want to find himself paying child support, how about he doesn't have unprotected sex with a woman.

Exactly...  He knows the score...unless he is a stupid plonker

If a guy does not care to use  precautions during sex.. and he gets a girl pregnant -  If she accepts the pregnancy.. then it is  BOTH a choice they made.. His for knowing the risks and not caring either way.. hers for doing the same..  

It is never a one sided deal...    If guys do not want to pay any child maintenance .. then  cover the hell up  during sex... or else pay the piper.. It will become  BOTH the mother and fathers  financial   responsibility ..

The both should take responsibility..  and if they break up and he moves on, he still has parental rights to see the kid ...   IF she does not allow him to see the kid.. then in my opinion, he doesn't have to pay a thing ..nor should he...  I feel regardless of their relationship.. a man should have rights to see his child..   ( not if he is a child abuser.. different matter altogether )  

My brother pays maintenance  for his two girls...costing him over £200 a month They are with my brother every weekend and during some holidays  ..He still takes his girls out to places they love ..and he has a room done up for them at his own house..

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:51 PM

If I had to pay, I'd be demanding 13yrs of back-dated nookie from said lesbians!  It's only right, in my opinion.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:59 PM

View PostJGirl, on 31 October 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

how does someone else get you drunk? that's just shifting responsibility
hides the condoms?? why does he need to get a condom from her - he again is responsible
lies about the pill? yet again, why is he not taking responsibility for it himself? oh you're on the pill you say?  no problem then i'm not going to worry about it then. duh

In any other situation, you could take a person who misrepresents the truth to court to sue for damages.

If a woman creates a pinhole in a condom and becomes pregnant what is my recourse to address the wrong doing?. Unfortunately, there is none. I am therefore trapped.

if this was a business deal/scam, i could sue.


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:09 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 31 October 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

In any other situation, you could take a person who misrepresents the truth to court to sue for damages.

If a woman creates a pinhole in a condom and becomes pregnant what is my recourse to address the wrong doing?. Unfortunately, there is none. I am therefore trapped.

if this was a business deal/scam, i could sue.
That's a little silly.  If you are worried that the woman you are with is capable of such a thing either don't have sex or - byo condom, you're supposed to open the packet only just prior to use.  You can handle that yourself can't you?  Or is that just an added responsibility which a woman should bear as well, making condoms available?

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:10 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 31 October 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

If a woman creates a pinhole in a condom and becomes pregnant what is my recourse to address the wrong doing?.

This makes no sense at all

Trying to picture this  - A girl takes the condom off her boyfriend.. "Gimme that a min I want to inspect it "...   *Sneaks a pin out of her trusty  man trap  purse *..."There ..you can go ahead and put it on now"...
* Thinks to herself *   "Now I have his  £25 extra a week.. . this is SOOO  worth it  "  DUHHH !  lol

Nope...can't make sense of that one at all..  She would need to be as thick as a plank to put herself at risk.. of not just a pregnancy.. but  if she is on a one night stand.. risk of STDS... Sounds like  she would be as dumb as a post to do that .. Pointless exercise

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:11 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 31 October 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

This makes no sense at all

Trying to picture this  - A girl takes the condom off her boyfriend.. "Gimme that a min I want to inspect it "...   *Sneaks a pin out of her trust  man trap  purse *..."There ..you can go ahead and put it on now"... * Thinks to herself * .  "Now I have his  £25 extra a week... this is SOOO  worth it  "

Nope...can't make sense of that one at all..  She would need to be as thick as a plank to put herself at risk.. of not just a pregnancy.. but  if she is on a one night stand.. risk of STDS... Sounds like  she would be as dumb as a post to do that .. Pointless exercise

Or she hands you a condom and you put it on unknowing that it was damaged

View PostlibstaK, on 31 October 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

That's a little silly.  If you are worried that the woman you are with is capable of such a thing either don't have sex or - byo condom, you're supposed to open the packet only just prior to use.  You can handle that yourself can't you?  Or is that just an added responsibility which a woman should bear as well, making condoms available?

And if you are not worried about this occurring and it happens?


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:13 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 31 October 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

Or she hands you a condom and you put it on unknowing that it was damaged



And if you are not worried about this occurring and it happens?
Not exactly thinking with your head at the time then are you.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:13 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 31 October 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

In any other situation, you could take a person who misrepresents the truth to court to sue for damages.

If a woman creates a pinhole in a condom and becomes pregnant what is my recourse to address the wrong doing?. Unfortunately, there is none. I am therefore trapped.

if this was a business deal/scam, i could sue.
i don't know who you're dating, but dude listen to yourself.


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:15 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 31 October 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

In any other situation, you could take a person who misrepresents the truth to court to sue for damages.

If a woman creates a pinhole in a condom and becomes pregnant what is my recourse to address the wrong doing?. Unfortunately, there is none. I am therefore trapped.

if this was a business deal/scam, i could sue.

May I suggest a vasectomy? They are reversable if you decide to have children later in life. But, while you are messing around with women you can't trust at least you know you are safe.

I used the pill and condoms together, before I had my tubes tied and settled down. Although, I was never into casually sleeping around.


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:15 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 31 October 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

Or she hands you a condom and you put it on unknowing that it was damaged


This is getting dumber by the min    Tell me how that makes sense to you ?    In what universe  would that make sense ?

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:15 PM

Why is it a woman's right/responsibility to make choices for her own body, but if she becomes pregnant by not ensuring proper protection, suddenly her body has become the mans responsibility. If you don't want to become pregnant, why not take precautions instead of blaming the man. He cannot become pregnant, and has no rights to said fetus.


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:18 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 31 October 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

Why is it a woman's right/responsibility to make choices for her own body, but if she becomes pregnant by not ensuring proper protection, suddenly her body has become the mans responsibility.

Her body becomes the mans responsibility ?  What ?    Didn't anyone tell you that it takes  two to get pregnant ?    It is BOTH their responsibility

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:18 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 31 October 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

Why is it a woman's right/responsibility to make choices for her own body, but if she becomes pregnant by not ensuring proper protection, suddenly her body has become the mans responsibility. If you don't want to become pregnant, why not take precautions instead of blaming the man. He cannot become pregnant, and has no rights to said fetus.
her body is never the man's responsibility


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:23 PM

Be a man...bring your own condems.





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