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#601    Imaginarynumber1

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:26 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 04 December 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

For the Perry Reese map you will need to do your own research.  As far as the Piri Reis map, just do a search on UM and you will find it included in several topics.

I can find no reference to a Perry Reese map on any search engine. All that comes up is the Piri Reis map which just shows North and South America.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:27 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

Not quite sure what your getting at; it's the archaeologists that are making that ridiculous claim about the bow, sand and tube.  To those with an ounce of reasoning the way they did it must have employed some advanced method such as light or sound.   Let's be clear; there is no other conventional explanation on the table other than the crazy bow and sand idea and that's what this debate is all about.

We have all seen pictures and videos of people cutting and drilling rock with copper tools and sand. We have all seen remains of ramps at Giza, and we have all seen pictures of copper tools found there. Can you show me a hole or cut made by light or sound? I think that word crazy belongs somewhere else.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:28 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 04 December 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

Why no show them advanced metal working, or medicine, or the amazing physics necessary to cross interstellar distances?
No... we'll just help you stack these rocks.
WTF?

Or maybe they already showed early humans how to use metals, physics etc. Maybe they think humans were not ready for interstellar travel? Certainly given the current state of the human mind in general, they are not ready for insterstellar travel, because humans have a habit of committing atrocity and violence on mother nature.  So why would aliens let such creatures do that to other planets with the use of interstellar travel? humans are not ready for the more advanced technology.

Humans need teaching, giving them too much of a powerful technology would be akin to giving a high tech missile to children. .  ,


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:38 PM

View PostGaden, on 04 December 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

We have all seen pictures and videos of people cutting and drilling rock with copper tools and sand. We have all seen remains of ramps at Giza, and we have all seen pictures of copper tools found there.

The ramp theory is pure fantasy with zero supporting evidence.  Show me accurate holes cut in red granite, basalt or diorite that are perfectly circular, deep to few feet and >2 inches in diameter using primitive tools.

Pure fiction all of it.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:39 PM

View PostGaden, on 04 December 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:


Can you show me a hole or cut made by light or sound? I think that word crazy belongs somewhere else.


No I can't.  It's a theory.  But it's one hundred times better than yours.  No disrespect intended.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:42 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 04 December 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

That's been my biggest problem with the whole AA things. Well, besides the overwhelming lack of evidence.
What would be the point of aliens helping people build giant stone monuments? Why no show them advanced metal working, or medicine, or the amazing physics necessary to cross interstellar distances?
No... we'll just help you stack these rocks.
WTF aliens? You're useless.


maybe 'the rocks' ...the pyramids and other giant stone monuments....were actually part of an 'amazing physics necessary to cross interstellar distances'...

a different kind of technology and knowledge..?


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:55 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 04 December 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

I can find no reference to a Perry Reese map on any search engine. All that comes up is the Piri Reis map which just shows North and South America.


SUBJECT: Admiral Piri Reis World Map
To: Professor Charles H. Hapgood,

Keene College,
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Dear Professor Hapgood,

Your request for evaluation of certain unusual features of the Piri Reis World Map of
1513 by this organization has been reviewed.
The claim that the lower part of the map portrays the Princess Martha Coast of Queen
Maud Land Antarctica, and the Palmer Peninsula, is reasonable. We find this is the most
logical and in all probability the correct interpretation of the map.
The geographical detail shown in the lower part of the map agrees very remarkably
with the results of the seismic profile made across the top of the ice-cap by the Swedish-
British Antarctic Expedition of 1949.
This indicates the coastline had been mapped before it was covered by the ice-cap.
The ice-cap in this region is now about a mile thick.
We have no idea how the data on this map can be reconciled with the supposed state
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:57 PM

View Postbee, on 04 December 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

maybe 'the rocks' ...the pyramids and other giant stone monuments....were actually part of an 'amazing physics necessary to cross interstellar distances'...

a different kind of technology and knowledge..?


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I think this is true; we have little idea what Puma Punku or Tiahuanaco, or for that matter the GP actually were for.

I think however Chris Dunn is very near the mark with his theory that the GP was a generating machine.

I do wish that people would get away from this idea that they came here to educate the indiginous humans.  That is a raw assumption, and holds little validity.  Better to think that something needed establishing here with or without the indiginous population.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:57 PM

Wow, there are a lot of pages in here, it looks so interesting! A theory is something you can't prove, so either way it might not be real what you're saying ;) It's still fun to debate. A theory a few of my friends have had is that aliens have something to do with the end of the world, because they were the ones which created it.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:58 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

How about ancient art in Europe, North America and South America that portrays inexplicable humanoids often wearing equipment that we directly relate to space travellers.

Correction, apparel that VD and anyone who stopped reading scifi in the 1950's relate to space travelers. AFAIK, no functional space suit design ever incorporated antennae or accordion pleats like some unholy union between the Michelin Man and The Great Gazoo. Nor has any pressure suit used riveted construction since Wiley Post except for some deep sea diving suits which haven't changed in over 150 years, so unless we're being visited by alien steampunks, I think we can safely rule this out and I for am not going to hold my breath waiting for the fleet to show up following the next great air kraken migration.

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What about the art portraying space craft in India and other parts of the world.  How does one explain the Dogon mystery?

Flying temples you mean,and wacky airships channeled in the early 1900's, and a "mystery" which seems to exist only on paper.

It's all there in the rest of the forum if care to look.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:04 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

I do wish that people would get away from this idea that they came here to educate the indiginous humans.  That is a raw assumption, and holds little validity.  Better to think that something needed establishing here with or without the indiginous population.

There might be different factions of them. Some more friendly to humans, others extremely hostile to humans.

Book Of Enoch. And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, Armârôs the resolving of enchantments, Barâqîjâl, taught astrology, Kôkabêl the constellations, Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiêl the signs of the earth, Shamsiêl the signs of the sun, and Sariêl the course of the moon."

If they are real, they seem very particular in what they give. They come across as if they want to educate and empower humans. Bu other factions do not want humans to be smart.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:05 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 04 December 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Correction, apparel that VD and anyone who stopped reading scifi in the 1950's relate to space travelers. AFAIK, no functional space suit design ever incorporated antennae or accordion pleats like some unholy union between the Michelin Man and The Great Gazoo. Nor has any pressure suit used riveted construction since Wiley Post except for some deep sea diving suits which haven't changed in over 150 years, so unless we're being visited by alien steampunks, I think we can safely rule this out and I for am not going to hold my breath waiting for the fleet to show up following the next great air kraken migration.



Flying temples you mean,and wacky airships channeled in the early 1900's, and a "mystery" which seems to exist only on paper.

It's all there in the rest of the forum if care to look.

Sorry; the art work is all over the ancient world and no one can explain it.  

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:07 PM

Is this just from Google images? Can anyone access these pictures? Or is there a specific website?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:08 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

No I can't.  It's a theory.  But it's one hundred times better than yours.  No disrespect intended.

Mine is evidenced. Remains of ramps are on site. Chisel marks are on the stone. Copper tools have been found. Here is an actual picture of actual tools found.Attached File  The Tools.jpg   75.81K   6 downloads

From "How the Great Pyramid Was Built" by Craig B. Smith
Records survive that reveal the ancient Egyptians knew how to calculate the volume of materials required to construct ramps. But more significantly, I have seen remains of ramps at Giza and other Old Kingdom sites--most notable among them, a large ramp roughly 5.5 meters wide that leads up from the quarry site west of the Sphinx to the vicinity of Khufu's Queen's Pyramids. Clearly ramps were emplyed by the Pyramid builders in some fashion.The Rhind mathmatical papyrus gives details about calculating the volume of a ramp. Another written record (the papyrus of Anastasi I) includes an exercise asking a scribe named Amenemope to calculate the number of bricks needed to build a ramp 730 cubits (383 meters) long, 60 cubits (31.4 meters) high, and 55 cubits (28.8 meters) wide at the top. This ramp was composed of a series of brick compartments or chambers that would be subsequently be filled with earth.
Construction ramps are also shown in tomb drawings. One example, cited by both Clarke and Arnold, is from the tomb of Rekhmira at Thebes. The ramp is constructed of brick, reed mats, and filler material. The top surface appars to be paved with limestone, and on the ramp is a roofing slab in position to be pulled up for placement. Remains of a construction ramp at the east face of a huge pylon at Karnak illustrate one construction technique. Sturdy walls of mud brick were built perpendicular to the face of the pylon, 4 to 6 cubits (2 to 3 meters) apart. Although the wallsare in a state of decay, it appears that there were seven of them, giving the ramp a width of 30 to 40 cubits at the top. The space between the walls was filled with hard-packed earth and rubble. As the construction rose, the ramp was extended and the height increased. Ultimately, it would have been about 80 cubits (42 meters) high.
Moreover, records have been found detailing rations of food and beer for the workers. There is the workers cemetary. There are tombs for the overseeres with their respective job title inscribed on them.
Here is an actual picture of the pyramid, and I want you to take notice of the lack of straight lines.
Attached File  building-blocks-great-pyramid-500.jpg   59.24K   7 downloadsLook at how rough the cuts are. Now, who is dealing with pure conjecture, and who has the evidence on their side?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:12 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Sorry; the art work is all over the ancient world and no one can explain it.

This is the best you can come up with? Sorry, but these have been explained in this very thread, proving once again you don't bother to read discerning posts.
I noticed some of these came from AA. not the best source for critical thinking.

Edited by Gaden, 04 December 2012 - 09:13 PM.

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