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Rand Paul: Obama thinks he's a King


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#1    Yamato

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:27 PM



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:34 PM

People say every president should be impeached. Hating your elected leaders seems a very common thing.

Hardly ever really happens. Talk is fun though.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:38 PM

i got to agree, hardly ever happens, and when it does, it isn't about their policys, or whatnot. it has to be sex scandal.

the only recent politican removed for non sex offece was the guy that tried to sell obama seat. all others i can remember were fired\sues\impeached due to sex scandal.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:59 PM

He's done nothing impeachable .
Look at who has been impeached,and why .
They wanted Clinton ...couldnt do it.
Bush did nothing impeachable either....so....

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 11:24 PM

Well quite.
Has he done anything actionable?

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:00 AM

If a President is doing things that an Act of Congress doesn't even have the authority to do, is that actionable?

I don't think that past examples of impeachment limit future examples.   How many years was it until there was a sex scandal that led to impeachment?   Yes they're rare, but not confined by their precedents.

I believe we would be in a better place politically if we had impeached the last three Presidents we've elected.   Including Clinton, not for reasons related to the Monica Lewinsky fiasco, but for the illegal bombing of Sudan and Afghanistan.   I think the unconstitutionality of recent Presidents waging war is the greatest threat the US faces today after our spending problem, though the perpetual war itself is a big part of the spending problem too.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:53 AM

View PostYamato, on 18 January 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

If a President is doing things that an Act of Congress doesn't even have the authority to do, is that actionable?

But are they things the President has the authority to do and the previous 42 people haven't used that power because they didn't need to/didn't want to?

Edited by Wearer of Hats, 18 January 2013 - 02:53 AM.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:51 AM

yeah rand paul is one of the more crazy tea party nut jobs.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:57 AM

I dotn even care what Obama says anymore. He lost trust after Sandy Hook by not fact checking the indescrepencies.  Now all I hear is bla bla bla everytime he speaks. I didnt used to feel like that but now I do. If congress and the president cant have the trust of the people then they are ineffective Tyrants not doing the peoples will like they were elected to do.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:13 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 18 January 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

But are they things the President has the authority to do and the previous 42 people haven't used that power because they didn't need to/didn't want to?
That the previous 42 had but didn't use?  I would hope not, or else where does he get that authority?  

What do you think of the US's behavior in the world over the past 10 years?   What example do you think we've set for the rest of the world to follow?   We have created a moral hazard in the world with these commercialized special-interest wars of aggression in the past decade and its this anti-Constitutional mindset that the President is privileged enough to shirk the Constitutional process that makes this subject so important.   Presidents can't just invent their own powers or circumvent Congress by creating their own laws.   They can administer the laws that are created already based on the authority granted to them by the Constitution.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:18 AM

And if the response to this is "Well, the President has Executive Orders, he doesn't need the Congress", then Rand Paul isn't a nut-job after all and he's right.  The President is acting like a King.  

I don't want to let past precedent ruin the future too, whether it's the lack of impeachments or a host of unconstitutional abuses of power.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:27 AM

so Obama can do what ever with out having a 100 lawyers check his math before doing it lol ya what ever.

The president is no longer accountable for anything.

Edited by The Silver Thong, 18 January 2013 - 05:28 AM.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:31 AM

That reminds me of Mitt Romney from 2008



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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:48 AM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 18 January 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

so Obama can do what ever with out having a 100 lawyers check his math before doing it lol ya what ever.

The president is no longer accountable for anything.

He's gotta whole pocket full of free passes.    

In his defense he's batting average for the amount of executive orders he's issued compared to the past few presidents.

...but I won't let him off the hook.... he's a scumbag politician..... works for the globalist scumbags.  They take our jobs.  Make us poorer.

They rig the game in their favor by convincing the dumb that it's in their best interest to bend over and take one up the behind for the team.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:35 PM

If Obama has Rand Paul beheaded for treason then I'll believe he's become a king. Until then it's just politically charged nonsense.

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