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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 12:42 PM

www.bbc.co.uk said:

An American woman is being questioned in California for allegedly trying to sell a moon rock for $1.7m (1.05m).

The woman, whose identity has not been revealed, was held in a sting operation when she showed the rock to a Nasa investigator in Lake Elsinore.

Moon rocks are considered national treasure in the United States and their sale is illegal.

The rock was recovered but Nasa investigators have not yet determined whether it is genuine.

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 01:01 PM

I don't see why a person shouldn't be able to buy and sell a moon rock.

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 07:56 PM

Wait, so a piece of the moon, which is not owned by the USA is a US national treasure?

Whats to stop us Brits declaring that the sale of American beers is illegal as all beer is a national treasure?

Its absurd.


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Posted 21 May 2011 - 08:41 PM

Kind of makes you wonder why the government is so worried that its citizens have pieces of the moon???????

I smell a conspiracy  :yes:

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 09:34 PM

View PostWyrdlight, on 21 May 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

Wait, so a piece of the moon, which is not owned by the USA is a US national treasure?[/q

Whats to stop us Brits declaring that the sale of American beers is illegal as all beer is a national treasure?

Its absurd.
Your analogy is rather odd. It is already illegal to sell American beers in the UK IF THEY ARE STOLEN.

The moon may not be owned by the US, but the rock is (unless this woman retrieved this rock from the moon herself, which would seem a little unlikely). If the rock is genuine then it is almost certainly stolen. If it isn't genuine then fraud is involved. Either way it seems likely that a criminal act is involved here.

What is absurd about arresting criminals?

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 09:35 PM

View Postbigtroutak, on 21 May 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

Kind of makes you wonder why the government is so worried that its citizens have pieces of the moon???????

I smell a conspiracy

Maybe because it is probably government property.

I smell some very silly posts.

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 09:53 PM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 21 May 2011 - 09:35 PM, said:

Maybe because it is probably government property.

I smell some very silly posts.


Damn you're no fun LOL

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 10:50 PM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 21 May 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

The moon may not be owned by the US, but the rock is (unless this woman retrieved this rock from the moon herself, which would seem a little unlikely). If the rock is genuine then it is almost certainly stolen. If it isn't genuine then fraud is involved. Either way it seems likely that a criminal act is involved here.

If they were actually stolen or fraudulent, then yes a crime has been committed.

However according to the article:

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Many hundreds of kilograms of rock were collected from Nasa missions to the Moon, mainly during the Apollo 15, 16 and 17 missions.

Hundreds were handed out as gifts to foreign nations and US states, and scores of those remain unaccounted for.

So it is not inconceivable that one might end up in private hands over the years, yet their sale is illegal.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 12:03 AM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 21 May 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:


The moon may not be owned by the US

But, but, we put our FLAG in it!  That's like international "dibs" right?

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 01:00 AM

I didn't realize moon rocks thieves were afoot in my city.

View Postjimv, on 22 May 2011 - 12:03 AM, said:

But, but, we put our FLAG in it!  That's like international "dibs" right?
Everyone knows the only real way to call dibs on something like the moon is to build a fort to put the flag on top of.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 02:32 AM

Ridiculous. It's just a rock.


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Posted 22 May 2011 - 11:26 AM

View PostThe Russian Hare, on 21 May 2011 - 01:01 PM, said:

I don't see why a person shouldn't be able to buy and sell a moon rock.
It's stolen property ????

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 11:43 AM

View PostParacelse, on 22 May 2011 - 11:26 AM, said:

It's stolen property ????

As I said earlier... this one might be, but selling any moon rock is apparently against the law.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 01:05 PM

View PostThe Russian Hare, on 22 May 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

As I said earlier... this one might be, but selling any moon rock is apparently against the law.

it's against the law to sell moon rock in US . even though the moon rock may not be property of US . this is same as it's illegal to sell drugs in US even though it's not belong to US  .  you can sell it in other country which allow it.

I wonder how the buyer know whether the moon rock is real or fake? how to test ? you can easily create a fake one using rock found in earth


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Posted 22 May 2011 - 02:46 PM

View PostThe Russian Hare, on 22 May 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

As I said earlier... this one might be, but selling any moon rock is apparently against the law.
the other ones are fake therefore it's fraud....

Edited by Paracelse, 22 May 2011 - 02:46 PM.

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