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#1    <bleeding_heart>

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 03:32 PM

Iran is to begin work in June on building a heavy water reactor which could be used as part of a fuel cycle to produce bomb-grade plutonium, said diplomats in Vienna.

"Iran is to announce soon that it will be beginning work in June on a heavy water research reactor in Arak," 200 kilometres southwest of Tehran, a diplomat close to the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) told The AFP.

IAEA director general Mohamed ElBaradei returned to Vienna Wednesday from Tehran, where he had recieved a promise from the Iranian leadership to adhere to a timetable to finally answer charges it is trying secretly to develop nuclear weapons.

The reactor to be built at Arak would not be in violation of safeguards which the IAEA enforces under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), the diplomat said. But he added it could send a "bad political signal" from Iran to the international community.

Iran has said the Arak reactor would be for research and the production of radioisotopes for medical and industrial use.

On Tuesday, Secretary for Iran's Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Hassan Rowhani said the recent agreements with ElBaradei indicated that the remaining issues with the IAEA would be settled in the next two months.

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 04:30 PM

don't understand why we are all being so civil to a government that is constantly playing games.....We already know they have nukes, they support terrorists,  violent their own citizens right, and havenít tried to even help ( as far as I know)  in Iraq or with Taliban other then criticize.

Why do we keep letting them get away with stuff like this?

Edited by shirini, 07 April 2004 - 04:32 PM.


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Posted 07 April 2004 - 04:31 PM

  whistling2.gif It's the end of the world as we know it...its the end of the world as we know it... its the end of the world as we know it...and i feel fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!   whistling2.gif  

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 04:40 PM

What I don't see in this report is the
fact that Iran's nuclear plants are all
under contract to be built by the Russians.

The contract was signed long before the
war with Iraq, and is said to be worth
over $10,000,000,000 yes thats 10 BILLION
with a B.

The russians claim that the nuclear program
the Iranians are active in and working
with the russians under contract are
for the peacful production of electric
power ONLY.

But if they are building a "heavy water"
nuclear reactor that can be used for
the production of pure plutonium.
it is scarey to say the least.

In my opinion this must be taken out in
a pre-emptive strike, we have no choise
if they go ahead with these plans.

There is no way in hell we will let Iran
develop nuclear weapons, or the material
to build them.

Gazz


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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:01 PM

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Iran's nuclear plants are all
under contract to be built by the Russians.


got a source for this?  i havent heard this before...that's besides the point...i think once bush wins the election again he will be free to go after the remaining of the axis of evil (iran sudan n. korea)...it'll be a quick ww3 but it'll be bloody.... crying.gif
but we gotta do it in order to keep our way of life

Edited by fearfulone, 07 April 2004 - 05:01 PM.

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:05 PM

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/...rfel-165058.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/08/...ain552924.shtml

http://www.eng.yabloko.ru/Publ/2002/agency...ers-021002.html

http://petersburgcity.com/news/business/20...001/11/20/iran/

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:11 PM

Thanks  wink2.gif ...great links!   thumbsup.gif

You know, im starting to think russia wants to become a large superpower again and will do anything to get there...include try and screw the US and UK over...again...crazy russians.... w00t.gif ....i hope we dont have another world war or cold war....i'm not sure i want to live through something like that.  I mean, in my lifetime, we've had small wars here and there ( not to demean their importance or loss of lives), but nothing huge...although, if it were to come to draft status, of course i'd defend my country!   grin2.gif  

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:22 PM

Yes thanks.. I was about to post several
links myself.

This is much more than just nuke plants.

The russians are actually selling weapons
and missle technology to the Iranians.

That is why it scares me.

They may not be directly turning Iran
into a nuclear power.. but they are selling
them all of the tools to do it.

Russia defence of this is simple economics.

Russia needs money... badly!

and looks like they don't care what they
sell or to what nation, even if that nation
is a threat to the security of the world.

Or maybe the russians have a deeper
secret agenda in doing this with Iran.

Maybe they think they can sit back and
watch the destruction of the USA via a
3rd party.

Thus launching a nuclear attack against
the USA and being able to claim they had
nothing to do with it.

and while the USA is weakened the russians
could be planning to take advantage of
the situation.

I know this sounds crazy, but these days
anything seems possible.

Gazz

Edit: added comments

Don't forget that in the begining of this
war in Iraq we caught the russians selling
night vision goggles and anti missle
radar and communications jammers to the
Iraqis.

These jammers caused one of our tomahawk
cruise missles to go off course and hit
inside turkey.

Later we fired on a convoy headed out of
Iraq and found out that one of the cars
was full of russian diplomats.

The russians complained about it to the
UN.

Why are the russians so busy with our
enemies?

Hmmmm

Edited by Gazz, 07 April 2004 - 06:00 PM.


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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:23 PM

Although I would like to see Iran's government gone...I don't think we should start a new war! Iran has been pounded blow dirt for that 25 years by this government, it will need a lot of time and money to bring to an acceptable level and right now we need to first finish what we started in Iraq. We need go to back with a nice long program and fix what was done so in Afghanistan, that way we have them trapped. Remember, Iran government is there because the people wanted them, probably still do.  We should not worsen our position in that area.

As for Gazz comment on Russian contract, this is old news, like in late 1980ís, I think



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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:45 PM

Yeah, i was joking bout the war thing...i think honestly that we will do a good job in iraq eventually...afghanistan is starting to get better off......besides that... gazz i do remember hearing about the iran russian deals in the 80's, u sure this info is current?  if so...i think you may be right with the russian conspiracy...i think they still got tension with us from the cold war   disgust.gif  

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:52 PM

Gazz info on Russia and Iran is current but it's an old and still standing contract...those guys are buddies.  


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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:55 PM

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Gazz info on Russia and Iran is current but it's an old and still standing contract...those guys are buddies.
  

wink2.gif now i get the picture.... thumbsup.gif thanks for clearing that up shirini...either way... iran and russia, whether its a continuous friendship or a new one...can not look good  disgust.gif  

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (fearfulone @ Apr 7 2004, 06:45 PM)
gazz i do remember hearing about the iran russian deals in the 80's, u sure this info is current?  if so...i think you may be right with the russian conspiracy...i think they still got tension with us from the cold war

It is as current as the war with Iraq.

Just before this war in Iraq began, Bush
asked Putin to abandon all nuclear
contracts with Iran.

The russian leader said they would not.

and stated that the Iranian contracts
were valid and they would continue as
planned.

Also said that the nuclear plants Iran
was seeking were of a "peacfrul nature"

it is very current.

do some research yourself!

Gazz





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