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[HollyDolly]

Sorry to see this happen.I think their union leaders suck.Now is not the time for these workers to loose their jobs.Obiviously the union leaders care very little for the members.I still eat hostess cupcakes once in awhile. I like the snowballs, the cakes that look like little igloos,with the marshmallow and cocnut topping.
As far as Twinkees go, they aren't like the ones i ate as a kid back in the 1960s or early 70s.By the way, most things like cookies or cakes,momma made with a cake mix like Betty Crocker or Duncan Hines,and cookies were from scratch.we made this icebox cake from I think Pillsbury,which was Chocolate and lemon.It had a mix which you poured into a graham cracker crust,and poped in the freezer.Was quite good. Most such snacks we kids ate were home made,rather than commercial.

[and then]

Seems like a win win to me.  Americans might lose weight and another Union operation gets spanked..... score!

[EllJay]

Chris Christie speaks out about Twinkies....or maybe not

[F3SS]

You can complain about company mismanagement which is fine but I kind of think that without union involvement the company would've been better off financially. You can complain about CEOs taking big paychecks but the union leaders are equally as guilty. As an employee I'd be upset with both but the unions are good at drumming up angst and misdirecting frustration. Now, nobody has a job or twinkles and I'm mad because I love jobs and twinkies!

Edited by -Mr_Fess-, 17 November 2012 - 12:30 AM.

[little_dreamer]

This reminded me of what this teacher did years ago - let a Twinkie age in his classroom.
http://www.npr.org/t...storyId=4780900

[EllJay]

little_dreamer, on 17 November 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

This reminded me of what this teacher did years ago - let a Twinkie age in his classroom.
http://www.npr.org/t...storyId=4780900

I heard of a couple that when they moved out of their house they disassembled a wall-mounted kitchen sofa and found a swiss-roll still in its wrapper behind it. They thought it most had dropped out of their grocery bag earlier that week. Well, when they had a closer look at it, still looking fresh and edible, they discover the date on it.
It was 5 years old. Talk about preservatives.

[Mr. Smith]

Corp, on 16 November 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

But what will we eat when the zombies take over?

Pink Coconut Snowballs.

[Mr. Smith]

Hostess the brand will be back. I hear Sara Lee already is in negotiations.

[Simbi Laveau]

TWINKIE-POCALYPSE

[Jinxdom]

I'm never gonna hear the end of it... I told my friends that the first sign of the apocalypse is going to be the end of Twinkies. son of a....

[Jeremiah65]

Thought about this and now it's time for a soap box moment....



Consider this....perhaps it is time to stop shoving poison in our face 24/7. Most fast food is just flat bad for you as are most snack foods. Sure, a little indulgence is wonderful...but in true American form...we don't just occasionally indulge...we are damn gluttons!

Snack food and fast food should be a once or twice a month thing. Not because of price, but because...well...they are not good for you!

We have the fattest and most obese nation on the planet...does that not alarm anyone but me? Why is that? Well...part of it is because they have decided that things that are good for you should be more expensive. I was walking through the store the other day and noticed something that was alarming to me. It costs $1.99 for a gallon of "spring water" (if you want to believe it is actually from a spring)...it was $1.00 for a 3 liter of generic soda....wtf? How can water (which is still a prime ingredient of soda pop) cost more than the soda pop? it is because they want the poor to have limited choices...they want the poor to nutritionally starve in a marketplace full of food.

Folks often say it is because of choices...and that is partially true...but if someone has a limited amount of money to make their stomach stop growling...they going to buy as much "cheap crap" as they can to stretch those dollars....the b@stards  running the consumable markets know this...and they are poisoning them. Elitism is not reserved to cars and homes...apparently it is prevalent in food as well.

I hate this... I hate all of this. As a Libertarian, I understand the rules of a dog eat dog world...but I cannot accept collateral damage. There are people out there that just want to live modestly and in as little pain as possible...and the pricks in charge are allowing them to eat toxins...hoping that they assist in "thinning out the herd"...yeah baby...I am a conspiracy theorist...and the biggest conspiracy I see is in the realm of population control....controlling how many people there are and controlling how healthy their bodies and minds can be...it sickens me.   maybe healthcare is an issue because we are forced to poison ourselves to stop the growling in our stomachs...

/end soapbox rant....

Edited by Jeremiah65, 17 November 2012 - 12:48 PM.

[cerberusxp]

Another one bites the dust due to union greed and power. The bread maker Franz has picked up on the raspberry filled powdered doughnuts though. Just bought some yesterday. Looked at turkey and ham prices too $45 for a turkey or a picnic ham? Sure two people can eat on them for several days but wow. A whole Turkey dinner for 10 ppl $44 or so in 2008. Cost has more than doubled. Obamanomics gotta love it.

Edited by cerberusxp, 17 November 2012 - 02:43 PM.

[Jeremiah65]

cerberusxp, on 17 November 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

Another one bites the dust due to union greed and power. The bread maker Franz has picked up on the raspberry filled powdered doughnuts though. Just bought some yesterday. Looked at turkey and ham prices too $45 for a turkey or a picnic ham? Sure two people can eat on them for several days but wow.

You sir...are a d-bag.

They were in bankruptcy...has nothing to do with unions.  But why allow the facts to interfere with your selfish ass opinion?

I have had just about enough of the union bashing.  I am so ready for some of you buttheads to end up in slave camps or working for slave wages...you WILL get what is coming to you.  The unions fulfilled a purpose...which was to get people decent wages and safety protocols...if you do not understand that...you really need to go out into the woods...and jump off a cliff...you are NOT contributing to society so therefore you need to stop wasting real people's air.

Sure...Unions got fat and corrupt...but that does not mean that they had no purpose...that they did no good.  Most of my family are coal miners...they made a decent wage and retired on a pension because of unions.  At the behest of my brothers...who were all miners...I went a different route...I went into construction engineering...something all of my brothers were happy with.  I always had a propensity for mathematics so they were always behind me to use that.

You make me want to jump through the screen and violently shake you.  Unions are NOT the problem...human corruption is.  The right to decent wages and a safe working environment is not the problem...some serious d-bag sucking profits off union dues is.

I am a Libertarian and I want nothing more than for everyone to have a fair and equal shot at success.  I work for myself but I completely "get" that many people cannot do that.  They should not be trodden over and relegated to suffering just because maybe their family could not afford ridiculous college tuition.  Your post...slapping at unions...is a sad state and you should find a really nice union built bridge...and jump off of it...you make me sick to my stomach.

mentality like yours is exactly why we are broken...I sincerely hope you get to taste the other side of the coin within your lifetime...worst of wishes to you...

Edited by Jeremiah65, 17 November 2012 - 02:54 PM.

[Mantis914]

Jeremiah65, on 17 November 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

Thought about this and now it's time for a soap box moment....



Consider this....perhaps it is time to stop shoving poison in our face 24/7. Most fast food is just flat bad for you as are most snack foods. Sure, a little indulgence is wonderful...but in true American form...we don't just occasionally indulge...we are damn gluttons!

Snack food and fast food should be a once or twice a month thing. Not because of price, but because...well...they are not good for you!

We have the fattest and most obese nation on the planet...does that not alarm anyone but me? Why is that? Well...part of it is because they have decided that things that are good for you should be more expensive. I was walking through the store the other day and noticed something that was alarming to me. It costs $1.99 for a gallon of "spring water" (if you want to believe it is actually from a spring)...it was $1.00 for a 3 liter of generic soda....wtf? How can water (which is still a prime ingredient of soda pop) cost more than the soda pop? it is because they want the poor to have limited choices...they want the poor to nutritionally starve in a marketplace full of food.

Folks often say it is because of choices...and that is partially true...but if someone has a limited amount of money to make their stomach stop growling...they going to buy as much "cheap crap" as they can to stretch those dollars....the b@stards  running the consumable markets know this...and they are poisoning them. Elitism is not reserved to cars and homes...apparently it is prevalent in food as well.

I hate this... I hate all of this. As a Libertarian, I understand the rules of a dog eat dog world...but I cannot accept collateral damage. There are people out there that just want to live modestly and in as little pain as possible...and the pricks in charge are allowing them to eat toxins...hoping that they assist in "thinning out the herd"...yeah baby...I am a conspiracy theorist...and the biggest conspiracy I see is in the realm of population control....controlling how many people there are and controlling how healthy their bodies and minds can be...it sickens me.   maybe healthcare is an issue because we are forced to poison ourselves to stop the growling in our stomachs...

/end soapbox rant....

Just as I was saying in my post earlier, produce is usually always toward the back but as soon as you come to the counter:  candy bar and soda city...
I don't know about population control but we are doing this to ourselves in our laziness.  Where did the term "brown bagging it" come from?  From actually preparing your own lunch and knowing what you put into it but instead we head to McDonald's or all these fast foods and get them to prepare it for us.  See that's the problem, this mentality of "I want it now and I want you to do it for me..."   has permeated society.  Look at what happens when people are told that there's no more chicken nuggets or hamburger patties.  They get into fist fights with the employees, it totally ridiculous.  
Anyway, there's no guarantee that Hostess is going away, they are having a hearing this coming Monday so put down the case of Ho-Ho's and calm down, geez...
The thing that we have to remember is that most of us are hitting our 30's and 40's and we don't have the metabolism of a pre-teen anymore so snacks like that have to come sparingly to avoid medical conditions and shouldn't be a regular part of your meal.

[Gromdor]

I tried looking up the wages. But while there seems to be plenty of blame by both sides, no one is posting numbers.  Did see mention of a 8% cut in pay and mention that Hostess stopped paying pensions and wanted to get rid of the 8hr day.  Also found out that Hostess was sold three times and each time, some of the more profitable assets were liquidized.  And of course the usual CEO's giving themselves pay raises while the company is going bankrupt bit.  The union does make for a goodscape goat though.
  I mentioned to my boss the idea of charging 5% more for our work and blaming Obamacare.  He laughed and said that the clients knew it wasn't fully implemented yet, but we might when the law goes into effect.