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#16    goodconversations

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:45 AM

View PostAlekx, on 07 April 2013 - 05:52 AM, said:

(first time quoting, hope I did it right lol)

You got that right goodconversations, even if they are still in development, there are still theories and investigations going on about a baby's memories, which you are some that you listed there. I'd like to focus specially on the first and last link that supports the theories about babies knowing things.

The articles tell us about babies knowing basic things such as the inability for solid objects to go through walls, corporal and sign language, some social interactions and such. Though it's true that they seem to know these things, I think they are due to intelligence. All cognitive abilities together is what forms intelligence, so I think is valid to say that babies use intelligence because they are using natural cognitive abilities to know these things, being this said, I dont think it's knowledge, I think its because of natural capacities using enviornment to produce the first knowledge.
Remember, knowledge is only a small part of intelligence, the rest is brain development, which is the most likely reason why people are naturally more good on certain subjects than others. UM has featured news articles about IQ not determining actual intelligence. Here is the latest one: http://www.independe...ds-8425911.html

I'd also like to add that primitive reflexes are a related example of what I'm saying. Thanks for the links :)

Neat quoting :)

How do you define cognitition? What are the "natural capcities using environment"? How do intelligence and cognition relate?

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:58 PM

View Postgoodconversations, on 07 April 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

How do you define cognitition? What are the "natural capcities using environment"? How do intelligence and cognition relate?

Good question :)

Cognition are mental processes with which beings adquire information and/or manage learning new thin (cognitive mental processes; also: a product of these processes) (http://www.merriam-w...onary/cognition) Within these processes we can find learning, attention, memory, problem solving, decision making, observation, here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognition http://psychology.ab.../f/cogpsych.htm

Since these are mental activities, the amount of usage of these abilities affect intelligence, specially problem solving, so they constitute a big part of it. In fact, Howard Gardner has a interesting theory about people with different natural skills and how they relate to this, his theory about multiple intelligences http://www.infed.org...ers/gardner.htm

As for babies and the environment. They seem to use these primal cognitive abilitites to recognize logical things via observation and/or simple reasoning, one can have a good idea about this with Piaget's theory, who studied babies behavior as a root for grown human's behavior (though many aspects may have already "expired" it's a good basis) http://psychology.ab...keyconcepts.htm

One more thing I'd like to add is that is thought that babies begin to use their brain independently soon after their brain is developed which happens to be one of the first organ-developments but sensory systems develop later, here's some info http://www.nlm.nih.g...icle/002398.htm It is attributed to these how babies can recognize the voice of their mother and also music tones, voice tones, emotions, etc (though this is not 100% proven I think) http://abcnews.go.co...=2#.UWGx-6L-Hg8 The article states that babies can recognize sounds in differente languages but start loosing this when they begin to grow up, Myabe they do have e keen hearing by then.





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