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Did we domesticate dogs or vice versa?

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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:36 PM

In the story of how the dog came in from the cold and onto our sofas, we tend to give ourselves a little too much credit. The most common assumption is that some hunter-gatherer with a soft spot for cuteness found some wolf puppies and adopted them. Over time, these tamed wolves would have shown their prowess at hunting, so humans kept them around the campfire until they evolved into dogs.

But when we look back at our relationship with wolves throughout history, this doesn't really make sense.

http://news.national...f-wolves-human/

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:07 PM

Makes some sense,i have often wondered if i am walking my dogs,or if they are walking me  :lol:

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:13 PM

we pick up their poop, and feed them, they live rent free and have no responsibility other than to look cute and bark at intruders... and thats more just being cute and instinct...... yeahhhhh i think somewhere along the line we stopped being the master here.


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:08 PM

not sure about domestication, but they sure train us as much as we train them.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:15 PM

View PostIron_Lotus, on 06 March 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

we pick up their poop, and feed them, they live rent free and have no responsibility other than to look cute and bark at intruders... and thats more just being cute and instinct...... yeahhhhh i think somewhere along the line we stopped being the master here.
i don't think we ever were the masters.
granted  I always called him my friend  not my dog or my pet.

Edited by mysticwerewolf, 06 March 2013 - 10:20 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:02 PM

I view it more as a partnership. "We" are a pack of three. :yes:

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:12 PM

I suspect we have evolved together to some degree as there was benefit to both. For example, have you noticed that dog "owners," that is those who feed the dog, seem to appreciate that their dog barks when agitated. The barking could be suppressed using simple behavioral methods, think Pavlov. But, the barking is not discouraged as there is a multiplication of awareness to potential danger for fearful humans. But, those individuals living outside of the clan or pack typically find the barking damnably annoying as it provides no benefit.


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:43 PM

I think I see behaviour in fox's that is similar to the question posed in this thread.

My local fox's are a lot more 'friendly' than in years gone by, I would guess that due to hunger they are willing to risk approaching people in exchange for food as opposed to running from us. The flip-side to this new found confidence is the attacking of young children.

Whichever way round it happened I am sure the need for food was a big part of the equation and as highdesert50 and other have said, mutual benefits...

Edited by Junior Chubb, 07 March 2013 - 01:47 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:01 PM

We domesticated dogs, but cats are currently in the process of domesticating us...


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:17 PM

wow That sounds right to me I do believe dogs adapted to us and our way.I have one question though why do humans have the need or urge to dominate other species and etc.because there are many highly advanced civilizations. That could dominate us so I wouldn't dwell all proud and might and especially invisible or unbeatable.let me tell you humans we wont dominate the planet earth and mother nature.for those who believe that we can I would highly think about that first.sure we can build devices and gadgets to manipulate it but in the end nature is more powerful and the planet than any machines and etc.


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:19 PM

wow That sounds right to me I do believe dogs adapted to us and our way.I have one question though why do humans have the need or urge to dominate other species and etc.because there are many highly advanced civilizations. That could dominate us so I wouldn't feel all proud and might and especially invisible or unbeatable.let me tell you humans we wont dominate the planet earth and mother nature.for those who believe that we can I would highly think about that first.sure we can build devices and gadgets to manipulate it but in the end nature is more powerful and the planet than any machines and etc.

wow That sounds right to me I do believe dogs adapted to us and our way.I have one question though why do humans have the need or urge to dominate other species and etc.because there are many highly advanced civilizations. That could dominate us so I wouldn't feel all proud and might and especially invisible or unbeatable.let me tell you humans we wont dominate the planet earth and mother nature.for those who believe that we can I would highly think about that first.sure we can build devices and gadgets to manipulate it but in the end nature is more powerful and the planet than any machines and etc.

wow That sounds right to me I do believe dogs adapted to us and our way.I have one question though why do humans have the need or urge to dominate other species and etc.because there are many highly advanced civilizations. That could dominate us so I wouldn't feel all proud and might and especially invisible or unbeatable.let me tell you humans we wont dominate the planet earth and mother nature.for those who believe that we can I would highly think about that first.sure we can build devices and gadgets to manipulate it but in the end nature is more powerful and the planet than any machines and etc.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 02:01 AM

DO YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE GOOD TO YOUR DOG AND KEEP HIM LONG ENOUGH HE WILL BEGIN TO LOOK LIKE YOU?


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 02:05 AM

What came first the chicken or the egg?


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 02:24 AM

View PostHilander, on 08 March 2013 - 02:05 AM, said:

What came first the chicken or the egg?


i dunno but either way im hungry.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 04:03 AM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 07 March 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

We domesticated dogs, but cats are currently in the process of domesticating us...

Dogs have masters, cats have attendants.






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