Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


* * * * - 7 votes

The Ancient Alien Theory Is True


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
10148 replies to this topic

#1846    Big Bad Voodoo

Big Bad Voodoo

    High priest of Darwinism

  • Member
  • 9,582 posts
  • Joined:15 Nov 2010

Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:36 PM

View PostGaden, on 12 December 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

My question would be; "What does that have to do with the assertion that Aliens built all the old megolithic structures here on Earth?"

With human arhitecture there is no connection as Im aware.

JFK: "And we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy..."

#1847    zoser

zoser

    Sapphire

  • Member
  • 10,009 posts
  • Joined:19 Aug 2009

Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:16 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 12 December 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

I'm going to call your bluff here. The burden of proof is on you, so prove it.

Don't forget, you're going to have directly counter all the evidence that's already been presented here saying the opposite.

You can start with the following:

OK so here goes.  I'm far from convinced that you got the point of my last post but I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you misunderstood rather than pretended it wasn't there.

Look at the thickness of the penetration cut:

Posted Image

My estimation is that the wall thickness of the tool that did that is in the order of 2mm at the most.  Two problems now exist:

1) The wall thickness is too narrow for stone age copper technology.

2) A 2 mm copper pipe would be shredded if it attacked granite to bore a hole like that.

The burden is on you as the proponent of the bow and tube theory to say exactly how that cut was achieved in the manner that you propose.

If you cannot do it satisfactorily then that is ok.  I will not think lesser of you.  

Are you clear about the question?  If not I will explain it more fully; I really don't mind.

But be honest that's all I ask.

My Opinion

The above photo places orthodox theories on extremely shaky ground.  The uploader of these still photos is yet another advocate of the advanced technology theory.  Not necessarily the AA hypothesis because I have not investigated him.  He may or may not be an AA advocate.  Yet he has clearly investigated the evidence in a lot of detail and reached a conclusion which is against the orthodox explanations.

The detailed analysis seems to have been done well by the advanced technology advocates.  They have done their homework.  Yet I can find no such detailed analysis from the archaeologists.  In one of my last clips (posted again below) Dunn examines in fine detail the nature of the cuts using microscope and software technology.  Have the archaeologists done this?  If they have where is it?  How does it address this kind of evidence.  We need to know,

The above cut could only have been achieved with a very thin walled tool.  Either some special hardened metallic diamond cutter or sound or laser.  In one of his later examinations Dunn tries to replicate the cuts using a specific type of laser but the microscope match is negative.  Could it have been done using another type?  I don't know.  I know however that it was nothing crude as Mr O is advocating.

Here is Dunn again.

If a bow and pipe did not produce this, then I'm sorry but the only conclusion is advanced technology and that could only have come from elsewhere.

I would appreciate it if you could you reply clearly and address the specific point and not talk around it.  



Edited by zoser, 13 December 2012 - 08:22 PM.

Posted Image


#1848    Big Bad Voodoo

Big Bad Voodoo

    High priest of Darwinism

  • Member
  • 9,582 posts
  • Joined:15 Nov 2010

Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:52 PM

Cant be that DNA as antene for cosmic orders is only interesting to me. Im a geek. :geek:

JFK: "And we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy..."

#1849    nopeda

nopeda

    Conspiracy Theorist

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 878 posts
  • Joined:07 Mar 2012

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:07 PM

View PosttheSOURCE, on 12 December 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

zoser
You have claimed several times that you will not change your stance regarding your belief that aliens had a hand in building certain structures of antiquity. In the interest of understanding why you believe this, would you please answer a few questions for me?
He wouldn't have to if you would just tell him HOW humans built the things he doesn't believe they were able to build. So if you think you know, why not tell him and the rest of the world how they did it.


#1850    zoser

zoser

    Sapphire

  • Member
  • 10,009 posts
  • Joined:19 Aug 2009

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:13 PM

View Postnopeda, on 13 December 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

He wouldn't have to if you would just tell him HOW humans built the things he doesn't believe they were able to build. So if you think you know, why not tell him and the rest of the world how they did it.


Exactly.  The answer is that the above cut just cannot be explained in mundane terms.  The wall thickness is far too fine.  No doubt they will try and talk around it with some clever circumlocution but that will not do.

Experts such as Dunn et al have wrapped this case up.  One of the biggest lies ever perpetuated has with the help of a number of scientific investigators been exposed.  The fact that it is still perpetuated says much about the shocking state of the human race at this time.

Lots more evidence still to present.

Edited by zoser, 13 December 2012 - 09:13 PM.

Posted Image


#1851    nopeda

nopeda

    Conspiracy Theorist

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 878 posts
  • Joined:07 Mar 2012

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:13 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 11 December 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

Are you a "strong atheist"? If not, who are you to know what they belief or disbelieve?
I'm a weak agnostic. I know what strong atheism is by looking up the distinction between strong and weak atheism. I know that most people who act like strong atheists seem to be ashamed of the very faith that's necessary in order to be one :lol: to the hilarious point that some try to refer to their faith as "knowledge".


#1852    nopeda

nopeda

    Conspiracy Theorist

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 878 posts
  • Joined:07 Mar 2012

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:15 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 11 December 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

Quote

nopeda, on 11 December 2012 - 06:00 PM, said:
Only if you can explain how any being could travel through space and have influence in the development of star systems etc WITHOUT being technologically advanced. When you can't give any sort of realistic explanation of how they could, we'll STILL  be left to believe God would have to have the use of advanced technology.
Astral Projection, which as a myriad of posters here will tell you is genuine, could account for it.
:no: Not without some being behind it, and the being would have to be an alien. He also would be technologically advanced way more than we are in order to be able to obtain the ability.


#1853    nopeda

nopeda

    Conspiracy Theorist

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 878 posts
  • Joined:07 Mar 2012

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:17 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 12 December 2012 - 01:37 AM, said:

given they won't stop with their nonsense, people need to offer an opposition anyway just in case someone with a genuinely open mind comes and just sees the gibberish and thinks "hey, noone is saying "that's nonsense" so it must be true!" case in point Ancient Aliens on TV.
:lol: To think that someone who has put their faith in the one possibility that no beings from another star system have ever been to this planet, is more open minded than someone who can conceive of the possibility that they have :lol: is hilarious from my pov.


#1854    Sir Wearer of Hats

Sir Wearer of Hats

    Is not a number!

  • Member
  • 9,454 posts
  • Joined:08 Nov 2008

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:21 PM

View Postzoser, on 13 December 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

OK so here goes.  I'm far from convinced that you got the point of my last post but I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you misunderstood rather than pretended it wasn't there.

Look at the thickness of the penetration cut:

Posted Image

My estimation is that the wall thickness of the tool that did that is in the order of 2mm at the most.  Two problems now exist:

1) The wall thickness is too narrow for stone age copper technology.

2) A 2 mm copper pipe would be shredded if it attacked granite to bore a hole like that.

The burden is on you as the proponent of the bow and tube theory to say exactly how that cut was achieved in the manner that you propose.

If you cannot do it satisfactorily then that is ok.  I will not think lesser of you.  

Are you clear about the question?  If not I will explain it more fully; I really don't mind.

But be honest that's all I ask.

My Opinion

The above photo places orthodox theories on extremely shaky ground.  The uploader of these still photos is yet another advocate of the advanced technology theory.  Not necessarily the AA hypothesis because I have not investigated him.  He may or may not be an AA advocate.  Yet he has clearly investigated the evidence in a lot of detail and reached a conclusion which is against the orthodox explanations.

The detailed analysis seems to have been done well by the advanced technology advocates.  They have done their homework.  Yet I can find no such detailed analysis from the archaeologists.  In one of my last clips (posted again below) Dunn examines in fine detail the nature of the cuts using microscope and software technology.  Have the archaeologists done this?  If they have where is it?  How does it address this kind of evidence.  We need to know,

The above cut could only have been achieved with a very thin walled tool.  Either some special hardened metallic diamond cutter or sound or laser.  In one of his later examinations Dunn tries to replicate the cuts using a specific type of laser but the microscope match is negative.  Could it have been done using another type?  I don't know.  I know however that it was nothing crude as Mr O is advocating.
Here is Dunn again.
If a bow and pipe did not produce this, then I'm sorry but the only conclusion is advanced technology and that could only have come from elsewhere.
I would appreciate it if you could you reply clearly and address the specific point and not talk around it.  

All that proves though is that whoever dug the hole was more advanced then the Stone/Bronze Age people we've accredited the building to.
There needn't be aliens popping down.


#1855    zoser

zoser

    Sapphire

  • Member
  • 10,009 posts
  • Joined:19 Aug 2009

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:27 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 13 December 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

All that proves though is that whoever dug the hole was more advanced then the Stone/Bronze Age people we've accredited the building to.
There needn't be aliens popping down.

I don't approve of your language "dug the hole".  Are you referring to someone digging up the road with a pneumatic drill?

This is a high precision cut in solid granite for goodness sake!

At least you have admitted something rational; which I acknowledge and thank you for.

However we still need to come to terms with how they came to acquire high precision cutting technology in ancient times.  The elephant is still in the room

Posted Image


#1856    Sir Wearer of Hats

Sir Wearer of Hats

    Is not a number!

  • Member
  • 9,454 posts
  • Joined:08 Nov 2008

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:28 PM

View Postnopeda, on 13 December 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

:lol: To think that someone who has put their faith in the one possibility that no beings from another star system have ever been to this planet, is more open minded than someone who can conceive of the possibility that they have :lol: is hilarious from my pov.
Who here has done that?
We've all said SHOW US EVIDENCE. Now evidence is something that needs to be interpreted, you and Zoser have shown evidence and to a piece of evidence we've interpreted it.
Strange looking statues? Either that was the pinnacle of their stoneworking skills or they're representations of their gods.
Modern looking hieroglyphs? Damaged hieroglyphs.
Incredibly accurate and precise holes? Still under discussion but nothing that concretely says "aliens", but rather "more advanced then we're told".
Myths and legends of sky gods? Taken at face value - they're myths and legends of sky gods.


The trick with being open minded to not being so open minded your brain falls out.


#1857    nopeda

nopeda

    Conspiracy Theorist

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 878 posts
  • Joined:07 Mar 2012

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:30 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 11 December 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

Why the heck are nopeda's posts not hidden when I have him on ignore I wonder???
It shows lameness that you would even ask the question. I can still point out some of your bullsh*t even when you're not trying to bullsh*t me personally though, and it's I who should put you on ignore not the other way around. But I'm not afraid of what other people have to say so far, so I wouldn't do that. I've never done it to anyone in fact, or even tried.


#1858    Sir Wearer of Hats

Sir Wearer of Hats

    Is not a number!

  • Member
  • 9,454 posts
  • Joined:08 Nov 2008

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:31 PM

View Postzoser, on 13 December 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

I don't approve of your language "dug the hole".  Are you referring to someone digging up the road with a pneumatic drill?

This is a high precision cut in solid granite for goodness sake!
Excavated then?
Cut seems too vague IMO.

Quote

At least you have admitted something rational; which I acknowledge and thank you for.
However we still need to come to terms with how they came to acquire high precision cutting technology in ancient times.  The elephant is still in the room
Well, IMO Nelly could just as easily be from Atlantis as she could from Telos.
In fact, given the amount of evidence point to some sort of pre-Sumerian/pre-Babylonian culture I'm prepared to say "this ur-culture were master masons and seafarers, they did it".


#1859    nopeda

nopeda

    Conspiracy Theorist

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 878 posts
  • Joined:07 Mar 2012

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:35 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 11 December 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

Quote

zoser, on 11 December 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:
No one has provided satisfactory explanations as to how such massive blocks can be placed together as if they are tightly fused across large depths.
Yes they have answered each and every one.
Then tell us how it was done, and in which particular cases the method you describe was used.


#1860    zoser

zoser

    Sapphire

  • Member
  • 10,009 posts
  • Joined:19 Aug 2009

Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:35 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 13 December 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

Excavated then?
Cut seems too vague IMO.


Well, IMO Nelly could just as easily be from Atlantis as she could from Telos.
In fact, given the amount of evidence point to some sort of pre-Sumerian/pre-Babylonian culture I'm prepared to say "this ur-culture were master masons and seafarers, they did it".

It's not so much a question as who, but how in the first instance surely?

Posted Image