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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:03 PM

View Postzoser, on 14 July 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

Another fail Mr S.

Mine is a photo from the scene.  Yours?  A piece of work from photo shop?

They don't even look the same!


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Just because it isnt identical is neither here nor there

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:23 PM

View Postseeder, on 14 July 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

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Just because it isnt identical is neither here nor there

Of course I also know that you watched the part of the clip (9:45) where a meteorologist studied the photographs and ruled out the possibility of a weather balloon.

He also discusses how it hovered low in one position for several minutes.  It made several stop/starts.  He confirmed that weather balloons do not exhibit this behaviour.

It's good that you do your homework Mr S.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:37 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 06 October 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

I have checked it many times.  One researcher even made a video of the radar data that showed military planes conducting maneuvers in the area before the UFO showed up, both visually and on radar.  Both visual and radar reports confirm the existence of this large UFO, which in no way, shape or form was a temperature inversion.  It could not have been, although since it had no transponders they could not identify it as one of theirs.





MUFON investigator Robert Powell, who analyzed the original radar data from FOIA records with Glen Schulze, notes the planes that cross the UFO’s path as it nears Crawford are likely at high altitudes of maybe 30,000 feet and says they’re non-military craft. Which raises the question (again): Where the hell is security when a bogey without a transponder sets a head-on course for restricted air space over the former Western White House? Recent history indicates the law doesn’t necessarily wait ‘til an intruder violates the no-fly zone to pounce.


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Here is an excellent and recent analysis of the Stephenville case (Texas 2008).  Recommended viewing:

Alien Mysteries - S01E02 - Stephenville Lights

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After watching this clip I would classify this case as extremely well supported, thoroughly investigated and complete with radar data.  The craft even flew over a football stadium and was witnessed by lots of people.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:53 AM

ITs a case of the Flying Tostado chip ship One mile by One mile  There watching ! And There Hungry ! :tu:

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:14 PM

View Postzoser, on 17 July 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

Here is an excellent and recent analysis of the Stephenville case (Texas 2008).  Recommended viewing:

Alien Mysteries - S01E02 - Stephenville Lights

Edit to add:

After watching this clip I would classify this case as extremely well supported, thoroughly investigated and complete with radar data.  The craft even flew over a football stadium and was witnessed by lots of people.

Mufon report into the case:

http://www.ufocasebo...radarreport.pdf

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:15 PM

View PostDBunker, on 13 June 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

Do you lend credence to all the ET visitation stories..... like the millions of abductions/year and the cropscircles, etc,....

We received another ET visitation: Antarctica




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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:19 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 05 July 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

So was that a precaution in case they needed to leave the craft, and they couldn't be sure (despite their overwhelming technology) that Earth's atmosphere was breathable, or could it just have been a detail added to add a bit of colour, despite the fact that it's horrendously cheesy?

These photos look like the Pleiadians.

They have been here on Earth for 1,000s of years.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 06:30 AM

View Postzoser, on 14 July 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

Alfena Portugal - 1990

Everything began at 8.30 am on the 10th of September 1990 when a group of kids called the attention for a "baloon" that moved in the skies of Vilar - Alfena.

Soon lots of people were also attracted by the unusual event. The said object with the shape of a "baloon" looked like a turtle with legs because according to a witness, besides the circular shape the object also showed appendices. It had a 1 to 3 meters of diameter and it gave the impression of reflecting sun beams.

The witnesses, a total of 25, positioned in various spots of the local wondered themselves about the real nature of that strange aerial artifact.

Some even tried to hit it with rocks. After travelling in the area for about 50 minutes, the strange ufo flew away in the direction of Santo Tirso - Paços de Ferreira.

Some people alerted Mr. Manuel Gomes, local resident and colaborator of the Jornal de Noticias newspaper, who took his camera and took four photos of the said object. Later he related the whole happening to CNIFO (Comissão Nacional de Investigação do Fenómeno OVNI) "

No propellers or sound could be heard.  The military were testing no aerial vehicles or drones that day.  In any case drones are not silent and since the object was low propellers would be easily visible.

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The above photos are actual images of the craft.

The first part of this documentary between 2:00 and 13:00 deals with this intriguing case.

National Geographic UFO Europe Untold Stories | S01E04

View Postseeder, on 14 July 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Funny how people thought it was a balloon isnt it? But then decided to go with the ufo story for the one minute of fame. People are smarter than you think zoser, if it looks like a balloon, then it surely is


Looks like Sputnik.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:15 AM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 19 July 2013 - 06:30 AM, said:



Looks like Sputnik.

Quite an easy mistake to make.  It's actually an ET probe.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:54 PM

View Postzoser, on 19 September 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

Kelowna British Columbia - 2003.

By Brian Vike
The story is real but one of the names in this report is fictitious for obvious reasons. Corina, the driver of the vehicle is her real name.

Monday - August 18, 2003 I received a telephone call from Corina who lives in Kelowna, British Columbia. The lady was very upset and had a time speaking of the event that took place with her and a close female friend of hers. She told me today that a friend had brought over a newspaper article which was run in the Kelowna Capital Newspaper. The headline read "Seeking Witnesses to UFO." which showed up on August 15, 2003

Here is her story...
She tells that her and her friend are having a very hard time dealing with what took place. Also another couple who lives in the area watched an aerial craft hovering close to the location where the two ladies had parked there car at the side of the highway and gave confirmation to the incident, or at least witnessed an object.

At approx: 12:05 a.m., July 31, 2003 the two ladies were playing around on the computer when Linda said, we haven't done any star gazing in a long time, so Corina, the lady who contacted me said, you're right, lets go out and do some star gazing. They left home at 12:05 a.m. heading out to an area where they would get a look at the clear night sky without having lights to obscure their view. Corina drove to Glenmore, which is north from where she lives and is on the back road heading to Winfield from Kelowna, B.C.

They were driving along and Corina reported that there was quite a bit of traffic for that time of the night, but soon after they decided to stop just off to the side of the road to see what they might notice, the traffic stopped coming. There was not a light from any vehicles, not anything other than a very dark stretch of road. Corina grabbed her flashlight and shone it into the sky as she has done this in the past. Her friend Linda had the binoculars on the other side of the car scanning the starry night sky. They were there only a minute out of the car when her Linda said, this is really strange. There are three stars up in the sky and formed into a triangle shape. All three lights at this time were solid white. Both ladies watched as the three white lights started moving, but moving together. The witness with the binoculars said stars don't do that, and Corina replies, of course not, as she thought it may have been a plane or something. Linda replies, no this is not a plane as the lights were changing color to a neon green and the object had stopped and hovered just ahead of their car on the highway.

Corina turned the headlights off, and shone her flashlight down the road in front of her car. They were worrying about animals such as a bear, cougars, etc. being around in this isolated area. As she shone the light up the road both of the women spotted something which frightened them a lot. Five sets of eyes staring at approx: 40 feet away from them. As frightened as they were, their first thoughts were of coyotes or some other wild animal, but she said once you really look your brain takes it in.

Corina describes the creatures as being roughly four feet tall, dark gray shoulders and coming towards the women. Corina said "I was so scared I could hardly talk, and could hardly breathe". She yelled to her friend Linda, "get in the car, get in the car". Corina said they both scrambled to get back into the vehicle, but she said it was like moving through quicksand and it felt horrible. Being so terrified and trying to move as fast as they possibly could, it felt as if everything was slowing down around them.

Once they were both back in the car, Corina tried to turn the ignition on so she could get the power windows up. But all the electrics on the car was failing. The dome light, headlights were going off and on, on their own and as she said. "Everything was going nuts!"

Finally the car started and they turned around in the middle of the road and sped off towards home and as they traveled along they noticed a fair bit of traffic coming in their direction. (Corina commented to me, where was all the traffic when all this was happening?) As they drove along the road, Corina said to Linda, "this is the weirdest thing. "She said I feel like electricity, my whole body is tingling, just like I was zapped by a charge from a battery". When Linda heard this, she said, "I didn't want to say anything to you as you might think I was nuts, but I am feeling the same. As if I was hit by an electrical charge." As Linda was explaining how she felt, and facing Corina she glanced at the clock in car and said, "Jesus Corina, look at the time" ! Corina said what are you talking about ? Linda said we were only stopped and out of the car for a few minutes at the most, and the time of the car's clock reads an extra 25 minutes of time.

As they drove along and close to home they both discussed it and wondered if they had imagined it all. As they were just about home, they turned onto Baker Street which is covered in darkness next to a field. All of a sudden they saw this bright, glowing neon green ball low in the sky. The object started moving to the right, "stop", left, "stop", right, "stop", left, "stop" and then it started to move away until the ladies car came to a halt, and so did the object. Before they knew it, the ball of green light started heading towards them at a high rate of speed and hovered high above their car. At this point they just wanted to get to their home and be as far away from whatever it was as possible.

The driver sped off quickly again and they headed into an orchard which was very close by. They thought they would not be seen hiding amongst the trees, plus there was no lighting in this area to reveal their position. Corina looked at her friend and said, "they will never find us here". Both women are sitting in the car trying to get themselves together as the driver said she was losing it at this point. Only after a very short time after arriving in the orchard Linda said, Corina you better look out the front windscreen and look up slightly. We don't have just one green ball of light, there are now three, glowing green objects. The way the green lights were in the sky, it looked as if the they formed a triangle formation and all moving now together. After a short period of time each of the green lights moved away in different directions.

Brian Vike asked if the witness could give some idea of how large the green lights were. The witness told me each of the lights were approx: half the size of a full moon. After seeing the lights flying off into different directions the ladies raced home as quickly as they possibly could.

Once safe at home, both ladies shaken, they tried to come up with some reasonable explanation for what just happened. They tried to put it out of their minds but that was impossible ! Later on, both ladies turned in for the night and when they woke up in the morning, Corina discovered a large bruise on her left breast and another on the bottom of her foot. She did not know how they got there but she did know they were extremely painful.

As she sat drinking a cup of coffee, Linda finally got up and was walking down the hall towards the kitchen when she said, "god, good morning - do I feel rough this morning". After Linda finished saying that, Corina watched as blood came pouring from Linda's nose. Corina jumped up, ran and grabbed a towel. Linda also commented that she was having a lot of pain in her lower back area. She asked Corina to have a look to see if there was anything that could be seen. So she looked and gasped, there was a large circle burned into her skin and was located in the middle, lower back area (tail bone). Also bruises were found on Linda's body as well, some of them appeared to look like finger marks and there were three of them on each thigh. Both women at this point were shocked, upset and very frightened.

Linda, who was up visiting from the Abbotsford ended her holiday and headed back home. Two days after being home in Abbotsford, B.C. she went to consult her family doctor due to still experiencing the terrible pain which was originating from her lower back, plus it was not getting any better. Her doctor examined her, and her injury to her back, the doctor said if I didn't know any better I would say you have a radiation burn. He was of course referring to the burn mark on Linda's back. The doctor is still trying to heal this mark on her back, as something had burned right through the outer layer of this ladies skin.

I would also like to add, this Missing Time event took place around the same date over 200 witnessed watched one amazing event unfold in southeastern British Columbia. I also received a flood of sighting reports which also came from this area. July 27/28 to August 18, 2003.

Parts 2 and 3 can be found on youtube.  They are only 5 minute clips each.  Well worth listening to.

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An up to date documentary on the case, well worth watching.

Alien Mysteries - S01E03 - Corina Saebels

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 09:13 PM

Yes Zoser, I am familair with this incident as well. It has been featured on quite a few ufo shows here in the U.S.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:45 PM

Bucks County UFO 2008.

No introduction needed.  The recent documentary clip describes the details very well.  The case was fully investigated by MUFON.

What are the UFO's after?  Why the glittering phenomena around the trees?  Was the craft extracting something?  Why are these craft just visiting and flying off again?  Why no attempt at communication?  

Enjoy the clip:

Alien Mysteries - S01E05 - Buck's County UFO

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 02:35 PM

I have seen this show quite a few times. I think there is only one other instance that I recall where a ufo seemed to emit something that glittered. As we both know Zoser, there was a claim in the Bentwaters incidemt where one officer said the ufo seemed to be emitting molten metal. WEIRD. Maybe the occupants of the ufo are looking for our reaction or something. Just saying....

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostSpacenut56, on 21 July 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

I have seen this show quite a few times. I think there is only one other instance that I recall where a ufo seemed to emit something that glittered. As we both know Zoser, there was a claim in the Bentwaters incidemt where one officer said the ufo seemed to be emitting molten metal. WEIRD. Maybe the occupants of the ufo are looking for our reaction or something. Just saying....

Sure anything is possible.  On the above clip it described where another guy came forward having seen a similar effect some years earlier in Florida; a glittering around trees and foliage associated with the light from a UFO craft.  In the mind of the MUFON investigator this added weight to Denise Murter's (Buck's County) sighting.

What could they possibly be after?  It's a great question.  In only a very small percentage of cases is there ever communication.  Perhaps one of the best recorded cases of direct communication is the Herbert Schirmer incident.  This case was covered earlier in this thread.  The next best was perhaps the Betty and Barney Hill incident.  These are however very rare.

Even in the case of Travis Walton we see no attempt at communication.  This is the most baffling part of these UFO incidents to my humble mind.  One good theory is that they extract necessary resources either from
  • Water (see Gosford UFO Australia 1994)
  • Soil (Delphos Kansas UFO 1971 and also Trans en Province UFO 1981)
  • Trees (Buck's County UFO - see above)
So there is some tentative evidence that these craft are here for their own benefit and not necessarily interested in us.  Interesting in the Buck's County sighting above certain chemicals were detected on the tree in unusually high quantities namely Boron and Magnesium.  This has been the case in other landing incidents according to MUFON.

Edited by zoser, 21 July 2013 - 03:56 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:50 PM

View Postzoser, on 21 July 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

Sure anything is possible. On the above clip it described where another guy came forward having seen a similar effect some years earlier in Florida; a glittering around trees and foliage associated with the light from a UFO craft. In the mind of the MUFON investigator this added weight to Denise Murter's (Buck's County) sighting.

What could they possibly be after? It's a great question. In only a very small percentage of cases is there ever communication. Perhaps one of the best recorded cases of direct communication is the Herbert Schirmer incident. This case was covered earlier in this thread. The next best was perhaps the Betty and Barney Hill incident. These are however very rare.

Even in the case of Travis Walton we see no attempt at communication. This is the most baffling part of these UFO incidents to my humble mind. One good theory is that they extract necessary resources either from
  • Water (see Gosford UFO Australia 1994)
  • Soil (Delphos Kansas UFO 1971 and also Trans en Province UFO 1981)
  • Trees (Buck's County UFO - see above)
So there is some tentative evidence that these craft are here for their own benefit and not necessarily interested in us.
Could they not just be conducting scientific analysis and taking samples (which might include the fauna, including the bipedal ones, as well)?

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