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How can we 'solve' climate change ?


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#16    Zaphod222

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 09:54 AM

View PostDoug1o29, on 01 October 2013 - 03:24 AM, said:

The definition of "global warming" is human-caused warming.

Pffft..... keyboard!

Gee, now THAT is convenient, isn´t it!
So, you postulate a claim, and then bend the facts to suit it. How do we call this? The "non-scientific method"??

The Catholic Church would have totally agreed with your deep thought, just a couple of hundred years ago. "The definition of earth is a disc." And if it is not a disc, it is still a disc!

Good grief...

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 01:44 PM

View PostZaphod222, on 01 October 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

Gee, now THAT is convenient, isn´t it!
So, you postulate a claim, and then bend the facts to suit it. How do we call this? The "non-scientific method"??
The pertinent question is whether or not that human-caused component is zero.  When we take out the variation from every source we can think of, except humans, there's still an upward trend in the data.  When that is correlated with temps, it disappears.  What would you conclude?
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Posted 01 October 2013 - 04:10 PM

Plant more trees and create forests in desolate area's might be a start.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 04:37 PM

View Postskookum, on 01 October 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

Plant more trees and create forests in desolate area's might be a start.
That's a good start, but it's not enough.  Forests have a finite limit on the amount of CO2 they can sequester.  And, we're running out of places to replant.  That is reflected in seedling sales by the state nurseries.  There are still a considerable number of odd areas and a few small fields that aren't really workable for agriculture, but once most of those are planted, then what?  Under the Conservation Reserve the US is planting farmland, but that only carries to ten-year contract.  When the rental payments run out, most farmers convert back to cropland.

We could very quickly and easily start using soil tillage methods that sequester carbon.  All the US has to do is tell farmers that if they want cost-sharing money, this is what they have to do.  Technically, they aren't forced to do anything.  They have the option of using old methods and forfeiting the cost-share money.  But as low-margin as farming is, not many can afford to do that.
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:18 PM

Stop using the oceans as a garbage dump and stop overfishing with those huge nets that grab everything up off the ocean floor would be a good start.  There are so many dead zones in the ocean now.  Ocean deserts, you could call them, where nothing living exists.

Without living, breathing oceans, may as well kiss this world goodbye.

Edited by moonshadow60, 02 October 2013 - 07:19 PM.





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