Still Waters Posted October 14, 2012 #1 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Even by Damien Hirst’s standards it was an unusual artwork – two windowless rooms swirling with live butterflies. Visitors to the exhibit at the Tate Modern in London observed the insects close-up as they flew, rested, and fed on bowls of fruit. But whilst the work, In and Out of Love, was praised by many art critics when it featured in the gallery’s Hirst retrospective earlier this year, it has now landed the artist in a row with the RSPCA. Figures obtained from the Tate reveal that more than 9,000 butterflies died during the 23 weeks that the exhibition was open. Each week it was replenished with approximately 400 live butterflies to replace those that died – some of them trodden underfoot, others injured when they landed on visitors’ clothing and were brushed off. http://www.telegraph...-Tate-show.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemonix Posted October 14, 2012 #2 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I'd rather see butterflies in the wild. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None of the above Posted October 14, 2012 #3 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Vile and appalling. The kind of thing I'd expect from Hurst. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted October 14, 2012 #4 Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) Vile and appalling. The kind of thing I'd expect from Hurst. I kill more butterflys than that going to work every day. ...not that I don't like butterflys...I love them... ...but the average lifespan of a butterfly is 17 days...his exhibit was up for 23 weeks...do the math... Edited October 14, 2012 by joc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted October 14, 2012 #5 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I despise modern "Artists". Like that other twerp, Tracey Eminem. I suppose it makes a "statement" about the vacuousness of modern culture that these twerps receive vast amounts of public funding to make their Statements about whatever it is that they're supposed to be making Statements about. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasina Posted October 14, 2012 #6 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Art is silly, and in this case, just stupidly vile, to allow animals to die for your 'art'. Bluh. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted October 14, 2012 Author #7 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I like butterflies, it's a shame they're becoming a rare sight here, I think I saw maybe just one or two at most this summer. They don't belong in an art exhibit. At least in the wild they stand some chance of survival even though they have a short lifespan. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted October 14, 2012 #8 Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) I like butterflies, it's a shame they're becoming a rare sight here, I think I saw maybe just one or two at most this summer. They don't belong in an art exhibit. At least in the wild they stand some chance of survival even though they have a short lifespan. We planted a butterfly garden.....now we have tons of them. ...but I agree...art is not 'life'...art is a representation of life. Edited October 14, 2012 by joc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted October 14, 2012 #9 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I kill more butterflys than that going to work every day. ...not that I don't like butterflys...I love them... ...but the average lifespan of a butterfly is 17 days...his exhibit was up for 23 weeks...do the math... These were butterflies that live in the tropics(not in a windowless room), with a 9mths lifespan ........... please adjust your 'math'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None of the above Posted October 14, 2012 #10 Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) I kill more butterflys than that going to work every day. ...not that I don't like butterflys...I love them... ...but the average lifespan of a butterfly is 17 days...his exhibit was up for 23 weeks...do the math... Really what species, in captivity or the wild? What species was used here, what is the average lifespan of that species? Some species in the Uk even hibernate, so where do you get such a broad statement from? Did you read the article? It says many deaths were caused by those observing. Edited October 14, 2012 by Atlantia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted October 14, 2012 #11 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Quote: '....... this work represents a throwaway approach to living creatures ......' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted October 14, 2012 #12 Share Posted October 14, 2012 LOL, he looks like a right ******. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted October 14, 2012 #13 Share Posted October 14, 2012 LOL, he looks like a right ******. He IS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None of the above Posted October 14, 2012 #14 Share Posted October 14, 2012 LOL, he looks like a right ******. Sometimes looks are not at all deceptive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oppono Astos Posted October 14, 2012 #15 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Didn't Hirst decorate Lance Armstrong's bike with butterfly wings for Armstrong's final TDF victory (itself totally tarnished for other reasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted October 14, 2012 #16 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Didn't Hirst decorate Lance Armstrong's bike with butterfly wings for Armstrong's final TDF victory (itself totally tarnished for other reasons) Yep. Unfortunately, so. http://www.bornrich....luxurious-ride/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted October 14, 2012 #17 Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) Yep. Unfortunately, so. http://www.bornrich....luxurious-ride/ The bottom line on all of this is that killing other creatures for our own entertainment is just wrong. There is an art to killing. But killing should never be considered art. ....and that goes for hunting as well. Yes, it does. Hunting and killing animals for fun is wrong. Oh, but we eat them the hunter says. Yeah, but you hunted them for fun...not for food. Edited October 14, 2012 by joc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urisk Posted October 14, 2012 #18 Share Posted October 14, 2012 We planted a butterfly garden.....now we have tons of them. ...but I agree...art is not 'life'...art is a representation of life. They're in serious decline in the bigger picture, but what you did is a very cool thing! Just need to get more people doing it. Sadly it's more to do with the really bad weather the UK has been experiencing the past few summers, so there are a lot of animals and plants suffering as a result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewild Posted October 15, 2012 #19 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I see a ton of butterflies here in Florida, and I have to agree that them floating around in the wild is more magical than placing them inside a room. I bought the kids the butterflies in a jar toy that was all the rage a couple years ago. It is a fake butterfly that flutters around in a jar when you tap the lid. A lovely affect and no butterflies are harmed! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted October 15, 2012 #20 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I see a ton of butterflies here in Florida, and I have to agree that them floating around in the wild is more magical than placing them inside a room. I bought the kids the butterflies in a jar toy that was all the rage a couple years ago. It is a fake butterfly that flutters around in a jar when you tap the lid. A lovely affect and no butterflies are harmed! See, that jar is art. Very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted October 15, 2012 #21 Share Posted October 15, 2012 When people start doing things with butterflies and like in the other thread with poop I don't see that as art. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah_444 Posted October 15, 2012 #22 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I see a ton of butterflies here in Florida, and I have to agree that them floating around in the wild is more magical than placing them inside a room. I bought the kids the butterflies in a jar toy that was all the rage a couple years ago. It is a fake butterfly that flutters around in a jar when you tap the lid. A lovely affect and no butterflies are harmed! We have one of those jars here too, it makes my cat go completely psycho. But yeah, this is not art imo..its just ridiculous. I'd rather spend the day at the butterfly conservatory in Niagara Falls; it's beautiful there. They land right on you and you can view thousands of them in a much more "natural" habitat..at least moreso than in a windowless room. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted October 15, 2012 #23 Share Posted October 15, 2012 We have one of those jars here too, it makes my cat go completely psycho. But yeah, this is not art imo..its just ridiculous. I'd rather spend the day at the butterfly conservatory in Niagara Falls; it's beautiful there. They land right on you and you can view thousands of them in a much more "natural" habitat..at least moreso than in a windowless room. A long time ago I visited my sister in Coral Springs, Florida and she took me to something like that; butterflies everywhere...and flowers...you know, they kind of like flowers. Taking a butterfly, after spending much of its life in a cacoon, and imprisoning it in a windowless room is in a short word, sick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted October 15, 2012 #24 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Son of a 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted October 15, 2012 #25 Share Posted October 15, 2012 More needless deaths of beautiful creatures just to amuse mankinds backward mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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