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#3391    bmk1245

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:02 AM

View Postquillius, on 12 October 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

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shall we go for a third attempt at a straight answer, or are we going to dance all night???
[...]
Lets clarify: op. mockingbird as UFO mocking campaign? Thats what McG was implying.


View Postquillius, on 12 October 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

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wanting to know isnt the point being discussed, the difference is between claims and belief.......how did wanting know enter the equation? :alien:
ok, lets make it more clear: "I want to believe" and "I want to know" are not on the same page, etc Or in another way: UFO=ET blind belief ain't on the same page as UFO=ET disbelief. Clear enough?

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:16 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 09 October 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

If you want to look up the CIA's Project Mockingbird, here are some helpful hints:

It was started in 1948 by Frank Wisner, who called "Wisner's Wulitzer" because he played the media like an organ, and then headed by Cord Meyer.  Both of these were very serious dudes who were not be be fooled with in any way, shape or form.

So McG says to look up project Mockingbird,

View Postbmk1245, on 09 October 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

And what CIA would come up with... Mockingbird... Brilliant... Good work McG. Nation is grateful.

Bmk's response above.......I guess we take this as the CIA did not come up with Mockingbird.....or do we take it as Mockingbird didnt exist full stop?

View Postbmk1245, on 12 October 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

Lets clarify: op. mockingbird as UFO mocking campaign? Thats what McG was implying.

Maybe he did although his post hardly carries any words that would imply such, maybe the conversations before it lead you to draw that conclusion which may or may not be true, however I asked you a simple question, did Mockingbird exist? and if so what was its function?


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ok, lets make it more clear: "I want to believe" and "I want to know" are not on the same page, etc Or in another way: UFO=ET blind belief ain't on the same page as UFO=ET disbelief. Clear enough?

again you are changing it all around, lets go back I aksed you a simple question again on your comment as shown below.....I ask about belief you respond about claims

Posted Imagequillius, on 10 October 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

[...]and let me ask you one more thing, anyone who carries any sort of belief on the ETH is a woo woo in your opinion, right?

BMK response:  Those with UFO=ET claims.


come on BMK lets not add and subtract but just stick with the wording used..... or we can twist again like we did last summer...yeah...lets twist again like we did last year...... :whistle:


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:32 AM

While it certainly hasn't been irrefutably demonstrated that the ETH is behind UFOs, it's not something that's flat out impossible either. The extraterrestrial hypothesis is just that, a hypothesis. It's the evidence that makes a hypothesis probable or improbable. The ETH doesn't violate any scientific principles, and it's not like saying Santa and his elves are behind the UFO phenomena. We humans are a technological species interested in what's 'out there'...there could be others. However, personal stories, sightings of odd things etc. just isn't going to support the ETH in the manner that science (and most people) need to say we're being visited by aliens. Unless and until ET makes themselves publically known the ETH is going to remain a poorly supported hypothesis, intriguing, but poorly supported (from a scientific perspective anyway).

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:36 AM

View Postquillius, on 12 October 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

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did Mockingbird exist?
[...]
Yes


View Postquillius, on 12 October 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

[...]and if so what was its function?
[...]
To mess with media.

View Postquillius, on 12 October 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

[...]again you are changing it all around, lets go back I aksed you a simple question again on your comment as shown below.....I ask about belief you respond about claims

Posted Imagequillius, on 10 October 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

[...]and let me ask you one more thing, anyone who carries any sort of belief on the ETH is a woo woo in your opinion, right?

BMK response:  Those with UFO=ET claims.

[...]
Yeap, thats what I said. Add to that UFO=ET claims/beliefs. Happy?

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:39 AM

View PostLilly, on 12 October 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

[...], and it's not like saying Santa and his elves are behind the UFO phenomena.[...]
Hmmm... After all, we have "photographic evidence" of fairies... So, why not? Its viable hypothesis... :whistle:

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:51 AM

View Postbmk1245, on 12 October 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Yes

ok thank you

View Postbmk1245, on 12 October 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:


To mess with media.

:w00t:

View Postbmk1245, on 12 October 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:


Yeap, thats what I said. Add to that UFO=ET claims/beliefs. Happy?

good I am glad you admit that basically we are all catergorised in the same why by you......whether its a belief or a claim we are all woo woos......
not that I didnt think this was your outlook its nice to have it down in black and white. :tu:


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:49 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 12 October 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

Россия стрелков водки! :tu:
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:53 PM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 12 October 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

LMAO wish I could read Russian, mind translating that?

Vodka!

bmk was there.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 04:06 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 12 October 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Hmmm... After all, we have "photographic evidence" of fairies... So, why not? Its viable hypothesis... :whistle:

Because Santa and fairies are fictional characters. The concept that technologically advanced alien life might exist and choose to explore space is more of a speculation. I'm pretty sure that most scientists don't advocate looking for Santa and his elves, but many do think looking for signs of alien life to be a worthwhile endeavour.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 04:09 PM

View PostLilly, on 12 October 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

While it certainly hasn't been irrefutably demonstrated that the ETH is behind UFOs, it's not something that's flat out impossible either. The extraterrestrial hypothesis is just that, a hypothesis. It's the evidence that makes a hypothesis probable or improbable. The ETH doesn't violate any scientific principles, and it's not like saying Santa and his elves are behind the UFO phenomena. We humans are a technological species interested in what's 'out there'...there could be others. However, personal stories, sightings of odd things etc. just isn't going to support the ETH in the manner that science (and most people) need to say we're being visited by aliens. Unless and until ET makes themselves publically known the ETH is going to remain a poorly supported hypothesis, intriguing, but poorly supported (from a scientific perspective anyway).

Which throws into question the cultural version of the scientific principle which seems based on nothing real at all, but rather is a place to hide for closed un-trusting minds.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 04:12 PM

View PostHazzard, on 11 October 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:



Some are less closed minded than others Haz; that's what it boils down to.  I don't reject things just because it wasn't what I was drilled with at high school.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 04:56 PM

View PostHazzard, on 11 October 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

DYATLOV PASS - SOME ANSWERS. http://www.aquiziam....ss_answers.html

Didn't really answer anything.  No worries Haz; just about to have a bite to eat then I'll post some information about it.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:04 PM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 12 October 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

LMAO wish I could read Russian, mind translating that?

Literally "Russian Strelkov Vodka".


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:05 PM

View Postquillius, on 12 October 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:


ok thank you

good I am glad you admit that basically we are all catergorised in the same why by you......whether its a belief or a claim we are all woo woos......
not that I didnt think this was your outlook its nice to have it down in black and white. :tu:

Yes, of course it existed, and probably still does under a different name.  BMK or anyone else can easily look it up.


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:40 PM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 12 October 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

LMAO wish I could read Russian, mind translating that?

Actually, I got it from Google Translate http://translate.google.com/

According to them it means:

Russian vodka shooters!

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