White Unicorn, on 29 December 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:
I see you are new and have few posts which tells me you are probably posting sincerely to understand the weird occurrence. The hum sound can be picking up on some kind of energy field that you can connect with. Your belief in the knife is what keeps it from happening on a subconscious level I would guess. These things can happen, how or why is yet to be explained. I know your confusion and fear when it happens.
Who said it stopped happening when I had a knife it stopped? I'm just more comfortable with these things when I have a weapon I know how to use. As for the hum, I know what it is. It's an electrical current. I just don't ever see the source.
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I believe it was a form of doppleganger but then I don't know what a doppleganger really is!
It's a real experience but the reason, the what is it , the how and the why of the experiences is still unknown as far as I know.
Well, yes. It is definitionally a doppleganger.
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Several different kinds of simular psychic experiences may not even really be the same in nature but created the doppleganger legends. Years ago I was trying to find the some answers because it was so weird and something you never really want to discuss at all. UM is a wonderful way to get insights anonymously on all kinds of subjects, welcome!
Seems to me, people who have an extra sense to something are able to see them just like "ghosts".
Ghosts are like the doppleganger legends in a way. Who really knows if they are all the same phenomena but in myths they are called demons, poltergheists, ghosts, shapeshifters, witches etc.
The odds of this being in any way supernatural are pretty low. Given the direction the sound is coming from, it cannot possibly be coming from him. It's following above him and not perfectly. That means whatever it is that is creating the sound is a seperate entity, and I don't think there's much chance of an audible electrical current in a supernatural being.
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All I can say I KNOW is that the cause is some kind of manipulation of an energy field of some kind.
Really? It's electricity. It's just electricity. It doesn't explain the doppleganger.
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Who or what causes the manipulation, God only knows.
Some kind of ship, maybe? People hear electrical hums around black triangles, just because I never saw one doesn't mean it's not a possibility. Certainly more likely than mystical energy, given that there's a physical being on the ground.
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Physics and precise study isn't there for us to know the answer.
Mostly because there isn't a real application for it. What investor is going to put money into researching strange humming sounds and people that look like other people? Yes, there's more than that here. But the problem is that the rest is not concrete and investors don't go for "maybe."
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So people who have experiences can only speculate with their own beliefs which only creates more myths. Some people are more sensitive to this energy field and even the time and place has something to do with the strength of the occurrances. The sensitivity itself varies person to person.
There's something out there that looks more or less like me, moves around at night and is accompanied by something I can't spot (probably not invisible, probably just dark and thus hard to spot backdropped against the sky) that flies way the hell above him and has an audible electrical current. It appears to be looking for something (or someone), and ran away the one time I got close. Your "explanation" makes no sense in this context. A mystical energy field might explain the electrical humm, but not the physical being. And the physical being is not emmiting the field because the sound is coming from well above him.
Maybe he's some kind creature that mimics the appearance of locals to avoid attention, and chose me because I was the first one it saw. That would explain the eyes, because it's likely it wouldn't be able to change them and have them still fill its intended purpose. Maybe an alien, which would explain the humm if a ship is accompanying him. And as an intelligent creature, it would know to operate in areas with little activity (which I personally prefer, because they're quiet) and it would likely be assigned to a single region if it really is looking for something. (I live in Lake Stevens now, but it's not far from Everett.) Since it operates at night (makes sense, because you can't tell its eyes are different in the dark) and I like to be out at night (because again, it's quiet) it's not unlikely for us to run into eachother from time to time. I hear the sound every couple times I'm out during that period, but I only see him a couple times a year. Usually at a distance, and always fairly briefly. I doubt there's anything special to do with me, except for being the one it copied. If it has a ship following it, it's not unlikely the reason I often hear the humm again for a while after I get home is it just moved closer to my house in its search. (If it even is a search. It might be a patrol, and it just looks like a search from my perspective.) This actually covers everything, and without involving the supernatural.
It's also possible that whatever he's doing, whatever is making that humm is following him.
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I will share the experience that led me to do a little research doppleganger myths trying to make sense of it.
It happened to me when my uncle came back to the states on leave from Vietnam. Eight friends and family were there when he drove in the drive way and then we were just talking to each other and making plans for a going away party in a few days. My mother walked up behind me, then to my left side and was just standing there smiling weirdly and not saying anything for about 10 minutes which wasn't like her. When I tried to elbow her to answer Marie, I didn't feel her and she vanished! I looked towards our house on the same street. Marie a Navy friend asked me where my mom went and I pointed that my mother was mowing the lawn at our house up the street. I was in shock after everyone who wasn't family left, I discovered that only my grandfather, myself and Marie had seen her and talked "at her".
Already, it's obvious this is not related. You didn't notice any visible differences until you touched her, and she wasn't solid. In my case, the eyes weren't different and he was solid. And I know he was solid because of the first time, where I touched him to get his attention before we made eye contact and he took off. Even without that, the footsteps were a giveaway. Your encounter was with an illusion, mine was with a physical being.
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I went home and asked my mother if she got off the mower and then went back and she said no. She didn't have enough time to do that, but I still had to ask.... She said she wanted to finish the lawn but she really really wanted to be there SO much that in a few seconds she had more or less what is now called a remote viewing event .... part of her was there but she was really on the mower! I asked why she didn't come over and she said she wasn't dressed properly. She was wearing a housedress when we saw her not her yard work clothes which she was really wearing.
Very, very obvious that this is completely different. What I saw was something else that looked like me. It was not me, seeing from a different viewpoint. I understand remote viewing and I've seen it happen. I know a few basic rules for it. It only works when people you are connected to are present at the location, it cannot be triggered conciously, cannot percieve anything not percieved by those connected to you and only they will see you there. I knew two girls this happened to all the time. It is not the same.
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She said she remembered being in both places! She said she could see the people clearly but could not hear them very well. She only heard parts of the conversation but it was only what Marie, my granddad, and I said. Those were the other two people who SAW "her" there. She then told me what we said to each other! My mother said she didn't know how she could do it but it wasn't the first time! She called it the gift of "daydreaming reality" but she can't always do it when she'd like. She told me that since we could see her that meant we also had a gift. (it sounded more like it could be a curse to me and mom was a witch or something like that!)
Basic remote viewing event. It's a form of telepathy. You are connected to her on a personal level. She wants to be there so she is experiencing it through you. The perception is fuzzy and mostly illusory most of the time, but maybe with multiple people (thus multiple viewpoints for her subconcious to work with) it works better.
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My grandad and I never viewed my mother in the same way after that. His comment to me was "don't become like your mother, she has a "gift" but doesn't always use it for good. She would have been burnt at the stake if it were a different day and age"
Wow. Real charmer, that one.
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Because of this I believe there are some people that have an ability and can be like a "ghost" even though they are alive.
Remote viewing works through the minds of others. The "ghost" is an illusion, and doesn't always show. I'm guessing it was her intent to be there, rather than to just see it, that made the illusion appear. It's entirely in your mind, and will dissapear if you want it to be gone.
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What is the "gift" really and why aren't people who have it able to control it better?
In my mother's case, why does she pay physically ?
(It appears to take something from her bones and joints when she is successful in using her "gift")
Yeah, pain and discomfort are normal. Remote viewing messes with your nervous system. It doesn't do any actual damage, though.
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Those are some of the questions I've asked myself about the doppleganger effect ALL my life.
I'll probably never find all the answers but I hope this helps others trying to reconcile their CONFUSION. I hope serious researchers discover its mystery some day.
If you can't tell the difference between dopplegangers and remote viewing, you'll only succeed in confusing people more.
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I feel for you, you're not alone in seeking answers to this old and very odd mystery. Maybe the lack of eyes in your double was because you weren't able to project your consciousness into it? The field of energy of humming pulse is something that manifests in many different phenomenons. I guess it's a working form of quantum physics that we don't understand yet. Since you said you still experience it this makes me think it is coming from YOU not someone or something projecting as you so don't be afraid of it.
This is clearly not the case. Remote viewing does not create physical beings, the humm is electric and comes from way above him, and quantum physics has nothing to do with electric currents. In fact, quantum physics has nothing to do with most things it's brought up in. It's not just some meaningless cover term for "scientastical stuff I don't understand." It's the theoretical physics of subatomic particles and the means through which they interact.
Meanwhile, electric currents do have a lot to do with "ghosts." Electric fields can interfere with a few sections of the brain, making you feel uneasy and making you percieve the presence of another person. Why? Because electrical fields emit electromagnetic radiation, often at low frequencies. If the frequency is low enough, it can be recieved and misinterpreted by the brain as the waves emmited from another person's mind. This results in a feeling that you are not alone when you most definitely are. Your subconcious does some strange things when it can feel somebody but not see them because of the way it looks for patterns and correlation. It will make everything you can't make out into a person if it thinks a person is nearby. If the waves are a bit off, it won't seem like a person but might seem like something else. An animal, a monster, some other being. If you ever had an "encounter" with something you never saw or heard, this is what happened. A lot of the time, the electric currents that emit these waves also humm, hence the humm being associated supernatural phenomena. I'm not saying all supernatural phenomena are imaginary, but most are, especially in a day and age where we get so much interference.
My encounters are different. I can see the being in question, it's not just my mind playing tricks on me because it's getting EM and thinks there's something there. I once touched said being and it was not only solid but felt exactly like it should have. (I touched his arm. It felt like a boy's arm.) He ran away from me, and I could hear his footsteps quite clearly. Later times I see him quite clearly and for periods lasting anywhere from several seconds to over a minute. The only reason it isn't longer is because I hurry away from him. He's really there, and I only don't do anything about it is because I'm not sure what the best thing to do is.
And that just about concludes this topic. Now that somebody has brought religion into it, I'd rather not address that and just move on to the second event. (The strangest in hindsight, even though I didn't think so at the time. Completely unrelated to this one.) Think I should make a different thread for the second one, or just keep going in this one? Commentor's choice.
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