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Suicide thoughts common in our life?


gehilaw

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Recently I have noticed my mind. I have a penchant for others to do help. Also as per my inclination, if i feel free and feel bore i am getting soicide thoughts. I know it's sin, so my sole trying to stop and ease these type of thoughts and diverting.

It means, when we have a lot of problems or feel fed up or with exigant circumstances commonly these type of suicide thoughts will come into our mind?

I mean daily we will get around 50,000 thoughts. Among those these type of thoughts one of the simple thought. Is it?

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Recently I have noticed my mind. I have a penchant for others to do help. Also as per my inclination, if i feel free and feel bore i am getting soicide thoughts. I know it's sin, so my sole trying to stop and ease these type of thoughts and diverting.

It means, when we have a lot of problems or feel fed up or with exigant circumstances commonly these type of suicide thoughts will come into our mind?

I mean daily we will get around 50,000 thoughts. Among those these type of thoughts one of the simple thought. Is it?

Welcome to UM, gehilaw. I think the occasional thought of ending one's own life isn't abnormal. We all seek escape at some point in our existence. Just my opinion of course. It's only a problem when it becomes the MAIN focus of your thinking.
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Suicide is not a good way to go ,because you leave shock and trauma behind which has to be dealt with by your family.

The cemetaries are full of people who would glady swap places with you.

Start thinking positively

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There have been points in my life that I have considered suicide because of my stuttering but at the end of the day I just think of how it would impact my family and what it would put them though, so I've never gone though with it.

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There have been points in my life that I have considered suicide because of my stuttering but at the end of the day I just think of how it would impact my family and what it would put them though, so I've never gone though with it.

King George VI had a dreadfull stammer, he took a course and got over it, have a look around there are people who can help you.You only get one shot at life Don't waste it.
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King George VI had a dreadfull stammer, he took a course and got over it, have a look around there are people who can help you.You only get one shot at life Don't waste it.

Yeah I know. I've tried a number of different ways to stop it speech therapy, legal drugs, marijuana. They've had short term positive effects but nothing that has gone over a couple weeks. It goes from better to worse to better again randomly. But I've had it for 18 years now and I've recently found a way that sort of helps me begin a sentence because once I start a sentence I am much less likely to stutter. But everyday I still try to follow some of the basic techniques to some avail but nothing has shown a dramatic drop in the amount I do stutter.
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There have been times I wished I didn't exist, or that fate would have taken my life instead of a loved ones. But, in general I've never really wanted to end myself. I think when someone feels this depressed they really need to seek out professional help. No one on an internet discussion site is going to be able to really help someone that's seriously thinking about suicide.

My advice: If you keep having these thoughts get some 'real life' professional counseling.

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Yeah I know. I've tried a number of different ways to stop it speech therapy, legal drugs, marijuana. They've had short term positive effects but nothing that has gone over a couple weeks. It goes from better to worse to better again randomly. But I've had it for 18 years now and I've recently found a way that sort of helps me begin a sentence because once I start a sentence I am much less likely to stutter. But everyday I still try to follow some of the basic techniques to some avail but nothing has shown a dramatic drop in the amount I do stutter.

Have you tried meditation - I don't mean just sitting quietly, I mean doing mantras. I never used to have a "voice" and I still wouldn't rate my singing as worth sharing but I certainly freed up parts of my vocal chords I didn't know existed when I started practicing meditation with mantras. See if there is something in your area - Tibetan Buddhists are big on mantras, although most groups are to some degree so I hope you can find something if you are interested. It is also alot easier in a group because you don't have to listen to yourself so much.

On the matter of suicide, it's not uncommon to consider it at some time or over a period of time when things are really tough. What is less common is to obsess over it and have it become a recurring thought in your daily life. Get help, talk to your doctor, so often this can be due to a chemical imbalance which brings on a depressed state, well there are many completely medically treatable causes for this, so don't be shy, get to the Doctor and tell him honestly what goes on in your mind.

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“The thought of suicide is a great consolation: by means of it one gets through many a dark night.” - Friedrich Nietzsche

I haven't read any Nietzsche myself, but this quote seems to make a lot of sense.

It seems to suggest that the thought of suicide gives you an escape route, and a sense of control over your own destiny. Rather than taking that final path, you can use that knowledge of your own ultimate control to empower yourself towards better things.

That's my interpretation anyway.

As for the notion of 'sin', it's just a control mechanism created by religion. You either subscribe to it or you don't.

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Have you tried meditation - I don't mean just sitting quietly, I mean doing mantras. I never used to have a "voice" and I still wouldn't rate my singing as worth sharing but I certainly freed up parts of my vocal chords I didn't know existed when I started practicing meditation with mantras. See if there is something in your area - Tibetan Buddhists are big on mantras, although most groups are to some degree so I hope you can find something if you are interested. It is also alot easier in a group because you don't have to listen to yourself so much.

Haven't tried meditation to help, ill look into it. Thanks.

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I don't think it's uncommon to think of suicide at some bleak points in life, however if these thoughts are regular you could be suffering from some kind of depression so I would recommend some professional help for that.

My dad was suffering with depression and tried to take his own life. He very nearly managed it but luckily he received help just in time to get him to hospital to save him. It was the lowest point ever for our entire family. It had a massive effect on everyone.

Edited just to add: My dad does great now. He changed jobs (which was the main cause of his depression) and received excellent help and therapy through the NHS. He still has some physical problems because of the method he chose, however he is so much better. He actually now works in care at a hospital which helps children and young adults who suffer with mental illness. I'm soooooo proud of him!

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About once a month when the farm bills come in!

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i think about it, pretty much every day.

Though i have no plans to actually do it, i do consider it my 'final solution' when all hope is gone.

Then again, i'm not all there but for what it's worth, i'm content.

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I think the basic difference between everyday thoughts and conditions like depression or mania or anything is its possible to entertain a thought, even give something a lot of contempation without accepting or acting or feeling required to act on said thought. Where things like depression you feel compelled, forced or traped in a situation where acting on such is either necessary or required.

If anyone feels compelled to harm themselves I would recommend seeking help from anyone, friend, family, professionals, work colleges whoever.

this is just my opinion I am no expert.

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I don't think it's uncommon to think of suicide at some bleak points in life, however if these thoughts are regular you could be suffering from some kind of depression so I would recommend some professional help for that.

My dad was suffering with depression and tried to take his own life. He very nearly managed it but luckily he received help just in time to get him to hospital to save him. It was the lowest point ever for our entire family. It had a massive effect on everyone.

Edited just to add: My dad does great now. He changed jobs (which was the main cause of his depression) and received excellent help and therapy through the NHS. He still has some physical problems because of the method he chose, however he is so much better. He actually now works in care at a hospital which helps children and young adults who suffer with mental illness. I'm soooooo proud of him!

Good for Pa Gazer! You should be proud!

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I have to agree that the occasional thought of suicide isn't abnormal at all. However, this is largely going to depend on the mental state of the person at the time of this thought. Robin Williams is a good example, none of us knew the issues he was dealing with in his own life and then he had just found out he had the early stages of Parkinson's, apparent marital problems, which I can tell you from my own experience will make you seriously depressed, plus his medications weren't helping him as they once did. Put it all together and suddenly a thought of suicide sounds like a good idea.

I think that maybe if someone had possibly known his plight at the time he might have been saved, once the depression is controlled then all the other anxieties will lessen on their own.

Moon Gazer: Congrats to your father for managing to weather the storm.

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Moon Gazer,

I'm glad your father finds purpose in helping others.

There have been points in my life that I have considered suicide because of my stuttering but at the end of the day I just think of how it would impact my family and what it would put them though, so I've never gone though with it.

Constantly being interrupted by an overbearing person can cause one to start stuttering.

In such situations, either the offender need be willing to change or avoided altogether.

If the person is willing to change, you will be given the option of walking away from monologues

without being followed. And, unless improvement is made, you'll keep walking, i.e.

either the two of you will learn to politely converse, or have nothing to do with each other.

That may or may not be the case with you, but your finding acceptable ways of asserting yourself

that are conducive to courteous exchanges couldn't hurt.

Gehilaw et al,

Insofar as suicidal thoughts are concerned, I believe them based upon fear. It is the unknown

that people fear most particularly when what they don't know tempts them to imagine the worst.

Pray for strength, and focus on being as constructive and, thus, as positive as possible; take one

step at a time and trust that you'll manage to take life's challenges in stride.

MGby'all.

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NO ... again I stress 'no' ~ it is not normal ~ as soon as you accept it as normal it is on its way to being 'permanent' ~ you don't want it to be a fixed permanent thought

When it becomes 'fixed' and 'permanent' ~ even the "DOctors" will tell you this , even they can't help ~

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NO ... again I stress 'no' ~ it is not normal ~ as soon as you accept it as normal it is on its way to being 'permanent' ~ you don't want it to be a fixed permanent thought

When it becomes 'fixed' and 'permanent' ~ even the "DOctors" will tell you this , even they can't help ~

It is best to reject versus accept suicidal thoughts--

trust in God.

0:-) MGby.

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I think suicidal thoughts are abnormal; the instinct is to live, supported by the moral imperative. We are all, however, abnormal sometimes so it is not a big deal. Headaches are also abnormal, but one has them. Like headaches, however, such thoughts are a symptom of a disease condition, in this case usually depression, and if the symptom gets serious medical help is needed. The disease can be lethal.

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I think suicidal thoughts are abnormal; the instinct is to live, supported by the moral imperative. We are all, however, abnormal sometimes so it is not a big deal. Headaches are also abnormal, but one has them. Like headaches, however, such thoughts are a symptom of a disease condition, in this case usually depression, and if the symptom gets serious medical help is needed. The disease can be lethal.

This is an instance where it matters not whether n/either or both of us are correct.

Why? It is such cases that call for holism,

i.e. the treating of the distinct individual as more than the sum of his parts.

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I never really understood what "holism" is supposed to be. Any medical professional of any competence at all treats the whole person, both medical and mental, so there is no need for something special here. In fact, much of the problem can be that sometimes the medical aspect is disregarded.

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'mental hygiene'

I know ... I hate the definition too ... but its the best we have as things goes ~

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trust in God.

'God' hasn't got the appropriate qualifications in the field of mental health.

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'mental hygiene'

I know ... I hate the definition too ... but its the best we have as things goes ~

Disdain for God does bespeak of sterility.
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