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[Mistydawn]

Expand... I don't know what the answer is, other than Government reform and legislation for the population of any country to be forced to treat all human beings humanely.
I fear the depth and core of self-gratification is not only prevalent in countries like India, but all over the world.
This poor womans end of life, sickens and saddens me,I know she wont be the last.

[ExpandMyMind]

Not sure why this was merged when the thread I started was about the treatment of women in India as a whole, and had very little to do with the horrible crime committed against the girl of this thread.

It had a lot of information and is an important topic to be discussed on its own, not to be lost as part of a thread that is largely full of well wishes and condolences.

Oh well.

[the L]

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No sense at all.

Edited by the L, 30 December 2012 - 09:57 PM.

[glorybebe]

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Some also want to draw attention to inaction on alleged sexual offenders who are working politicians.
India's top court said Wednesday it will decide whether to suspend lawmakers facing sexual assault charges.
Chief Justice Altamas Kabir has agreed to hear a petition on Thursday from retired government administrator Promilla Shanker asking India's Supreme Court to suspend all lawmakers from the national and state legislatures who are facing prosecution for crimes against women.

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...-lawmakers.html

WTH!? So, if the politicians aren't even prosecuted, how is the man on the street going to be shown that the laws are there for EVERYONE?

[Simbi Laveau]

Five men involved ,have all been charged with murder .
Doesn't help her any mow though .

600 musicians to pay her tribute .
http://www.bangkokpo...ang-rape-victim

[DKO]

The victims friends says many people passed them laying on the road bleeding but didn't stop, even the police took their time helping.

http://www.firstpost...end-578643.html

[Simbi Laveau]

Nepal is using the momentum to bring the issue to light there,as well .
Maybe Japan will do the same ,but I doubt it .
http://www.bangkokpo...pe-street-drama

[the L]

http://www.dailymail...r.html#comments

[glorybebe]

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'Only five to six people are not the culprits,' Asaram Bapu said. 'The victim is as guilty as her rapists.
'She should have called the culprits brothers and begged before them to stop.'
He added: 'This could have saved her dignity and life. Can one hand clap? I don't think so.'
Leading political figures were quick to condemn the inflammatory comments, which one opposition politician called 'regrettable, deeply disturbing and painful'.

http://www.dailymail...ost_read_module

And we wonder why this happened with assinine comments by a religious leader?

Edited by glorybebe, 07 January 2013 - 11:23 PM.

[Render]

Indian village bans girls from wearing jeans and T-shirts as 'poor dressing is the reason for most rapes'

• The ban, in Khedar, Hisar province, is designed to reduce rapes in the area
  
• Alcohol also outlawed while 'DJ parties' will carry a fine of 11,000RP (£125)
  
• Village council member: 'Poor dressing is the main reason behind rapes'

http://www.dailymail...ason-rapes.html


Wearing jeans and tshirts is also dressing like a whore now?
is a nun-garment still okay? Or do you have to have a metal armor on for when you may come across someone with a nun fetish?

Edited by Render, 09 January 2013 - 08:50 AM.

[libstaK]

The father of the rape victim believes this has been an "awakening" for India.

We can't change what has been but it is so encouraging when people find a reason to hope in the face of personal tragedy - this father is flying in the face of traditions where rape equaled shame and victims and their families preferred anonymity to protect their standing in society .Instead he is holding his head high and proud of the legacy his daughter could leave in the world, that is very poignant to me.

That this lady's suffering and death was not in vain would mean a great deal to all who knew and loved her.  It is the best we can offer now, to make it an opportunity for changes that will protect other's from suffering the same fate in the future.

http://edition.cnn.c....html?hpt=hp_t3

I also enjoyed this article from CNN "Mysoginy in India - We are all Guilty".

http://edition.cnn.c...article_sidebar

If India stays the course of this impetus for real change, they could be the pivotal force for change on a global scale - that is something I would like to see and I am praying and cheering for them as a people to make it through this as a beacon of hope for victims everywhere, a proof that the world does care and will do something to stop these horrors in the future.

Edited by libstaK, 10 January 2013 - 09:51 AM.

[your_dark_passenger]

libstaK, on 10 January 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

The father of the rape victim believes this has been an "awakening" for India.

We can't change what has been but it is so encouraging when people find a reason to hope in the face of personal tragedy - this father is flying in the face of traditions where rape equaled shame and victims and their families preferred anonymity to protect their standing in society .Instead he is holding his head high and proud of the legacy his daughter could leave in the world, that is very poignant to me.

That this lady's suffering and death was not in vain would mean a great deal to all who knew and loved her.  It is the best we can offer now, to make it an opportunity for changes that will protect other's from suffering the same fate in the future.

http://edition.cnn.c....html?hpt=hp_t3

I also enjoyed this article from CNN "Mysoginy in India - We are all Guilty".

http://edition.cnn.c...article_sidebar

If India stays the course of this impetus for real change, they could be the pivotal force for change on a global scale - that is something I would like to see and I am praying and cheering for them as a people to make it through this as a beacon of hope for victims everywhere, a proof that the world does care and will do something to stop these horrors in the future.

I am sorry but I dont think India will 'awake' in any way because we Indians are just a bunch of hypocrites. Politicians, citizens, the media, the police and almost every one has double standards in this country. This father is nothing but a media scapegoat. The girls family were not even given the decency to grieve. This girl and her friend were thrown out of the bus naked and they were lying naked on the road for 2 hours. Where were all these people then?

Like I mentioned earlier, the only reason why this case gained such attention is because of the brutality of the attack. There have been many other brutal incidents. What has changed since the attack? A couple of protests, headlines in the news all day. Do you know how many rapes have happened from the time this girl was attacked till the time she died? This country has been a nightmare for women for ages now. Its nothing new. I don't foresee anything changing as well.

The media has been all over this family. Television channels give her fake names for trp's. They are calling her 'Braveheart', 'Lightning', ' India's Daughter'. Really!? Meanwhile we have all these politicians and god men shooting their mouths off about how they they women should 'behave' in public to not get raped.

Three links for you:  This is what the victims brother had to say: http://www.firstpost...her-576759.html

  This is what the victims friend who was beaten up had to say: http://www.firstpost...end-578643.html


Another brutal rape from the 70's: http://en.wikipedia....a_Shanbaug_case

[your_dark_passenger]

Render, on 09 January 2013 - 08:48 AM, said:

Indian village bans girls from wearing jeans and T-shirts as 'poor dressing is the reason for most rapes'

• The ban, in Khedar, Hisar province, is designed to reduce rapes in the area
  
• Alcohol also outlawed while 'DJ parties' will carry a fine of 11,000RP (£125)
  
• Village council member: 'Poor dressing is the main reason behind rapes'

http://www.dailymail...ason-rapes.html


Wearing jeans and tshirts is also dressing like a whore now?
is a nun-garment still okay? Or do you have to have a metal armor on for when you may come across someone with a nun fetish?

They banned women from having mobile phones

[Catz]

This world is such a sick place.  Every time I hear of this kind of thing, I can only wonder what the hell is going on...It seems, we are surrounded by evil.  I am a firm believer in the death penalty for rapists, child molesters and murderers.  Only problem is whether the death penalty can be practised fairly.  If the government / justice system / police are corrupt, surely the death penalty can be used for their own agendas.
But everything must come to an end and I do believe that justice will be served.  If not in this life, then in the next.

[Simbi Laveau]

The rape suspects have been beaten by police and menaced by other prisioners . Their lawyer is saying they are innocent now.

http://ajw.asahi.com.../AJ201301100090

Edited by Simbi Laveau, 10 January 2013 - 07:28 PM.