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#16    freetoroam

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:13 PM

View PostArmchair Educated, on 10 June 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

constant sounds don't stop you sleeping, only changing ones do
3 fans on the go, unless working in unison would do my head in. They can also affect the breathing, depending on what fans he has.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:21 PM

It sounds like a very scary dreams. If you think you have problems with demons or bad spiirts..
just say a prayer.. or spell of protection..
call on God.. Angels.. anything higher beings..
and posotive...
imagine their light around you and your room...
and then sleep peaceful...
u can even ask to not get bad dreams or be influenced by darkness...

But it's probably just a bad dream...
did you watch any horror or demon movies lately ?

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:41 PM

God is real and so are demons and they do represent themselves in dreams. The fortunate part is you do get to wake up. I think that being a gifted dreamer is a blessing, you are given access to a world that most people cant remember. Dreams are a communication for you with the spirit realm and thw communicate with stories that sometimes seem not to make sence but if you spend time analtzing them they will begin to clue you in on some things. Now I know you mention that you were afraid of the demon... if you get the chance to see this demon again you do not need to fight him with agressive force but by being still and not afraid.. fill your heart with unconditional love and let that radiate out from you. You may want to practice this also in meditation, you may actually see a light that comes out of your chest... I have experienced this before as well as read about this technique from other sources. Concentrating this holy light onto the demon will pacify him and he will leave you alone. Let your dreams minister to you. You dont have to be a " religious" person to communicate to God and the Holy Spirit. It is guaranteed that they will protect and guide you if you ask for thier assistance. If you are having trouble getting through remember that The Christ is the redeemer, through him there is a rebirth of your spirit and the awaking of the Holy Spirit that lives in you and each and every one of us. Demons are powerless against us. Do not be afraid...

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:01 PM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 10 June 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

God is real and so are demons and they do represent themselves in dreams.

Well if he was not worried before, this should sh** the life out of him now.
WHY?

It has been explained what dreams are, they are NOT gods or demons representing themselves in dreams. I understand where you explain how to best deal with it, but the fact that someone is being told that some entity has entered their minds when asleep is pretty dramatic and I think a pretty dangerous way of looking at it.

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In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:25 PM

View PostBluekid123, on 10 June 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

How would you go about investigating a problem such as a sleeping disorder?

Speak to a doctor and get referred either a specialist or a sleep clinic but one event probably isn't worth the trip.



View Postfreetoroam, on 10 June 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

3 fans on the go, unless working in unison would do my head in. They can also affect the breathing, depending on what fans he has.

I'm pretty sure the whole fan effect breathing is just part of the whole "fan death" myth

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:31 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 10 June 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:



Well if he was not worried before, this should sh** the life out of him now.
WHY?

It has been explained what dreams are, they are NOT gods or demons representing themselves in dreams. I understand where you explain how to best deal with it, but the fact that someone is being told that some entity has entered their minds when asleep is pretty dramatic and I think a pretty dangerous way of looking at it.

Peace.

Did you read the rest of what I wrote. Dramatic or not it is the truth I went through this myself thats how I know... he does not need to be afraid, this is my main point. God and demonic powers play a role in our everyday lives but in our minds they are exemplified.. it is not a demon entering his mind when he sleeps, its something thats around him all the time that takes advantage of the vehicle, dreams, he has access to because this is a young man who has priviledge to advanced dreaming. He will not be fearful forever, he will learn and grow from this. Im sorry if you feel I am not speaking correctly but I actually do know something about this.

And the technique is not dangerous at all.. it will help him!

Peace

Edited by SpiritWriter, 10 June 2013 - 08:34 PM.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:02 PM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 10 June 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

Did you read the rest of what I wrote. Dramatic or not it is the truth I went through this myself thats how I know... he does not need to be afraid, this is my main point. God and demonic powers play a role in our everyday lives but in our minds they are exemplified.. it is not a demon entering his mind when he sleeps, its something thats around him all the time that takes advantage of the vehicle, dreams, he has access to because this is a young man who has priviledge to advanced dreaming. He will not be fearful forever, he will learn and grow from this. Im sorry if you feel I am not speaking correctly but I actually do know something about this.

And the technique is not dangerous at all.. it will help him!

Peace
Yes I did read it thats why I mentioned it!
I really can not see how telling someone that demons are real and will appear in their dreams as not dangerous. The best think to do is tell the guy the truth! there are NO gods and demons as you portray.
So basically, make someone paranoid then tell them how to try and deal with it, something tells me this is so wrong.

Edited by freetoroam, 10 June 2013 - 11:03 PM.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:37 PM

Actually yes there are. Lets just leave it as you think differently than I do as we have done in the past. I cannot deny what I know to be true, and it is not dangerous thinking at all. The danger is in the fear and/or the participation in negative thoughts and activities, negative thoughts could simply be fear itself but we must acknowledge them and change them. To make this easier God has set up a function which can directly deliver us from that and that is simply by asking him to.. this is a lot cheaper and more authentic imo than therapy, not to say that sometimes a person (not the op or anyone in particular) wouldn't benefit from talking to others about how to successfully overcome obstacles in thier lives, but in no way shape or form am I giving the op bad advice. Please forgive me op this will be my last post to this member (on this thread out of respect to the op not because i dont like talking to you free). Freetoroam I know you received help from the sleep disorder specialist and that is great! But, your exoerience does not discredit my own and I am sharing with the op what has truly helped and blessed me conserning the exact matter he came here for. Thank you for posting your views. Im sure theyve been accounted for and received.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 12:00 AM

I knew someone that had serious lung problems and she was told to keep a fan running because it would help her breath better.

I don't see how a fan could bother you if you are use to it.  Some people can't sleep without them they are so use to the noise.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 02:35 AM

I would not say it's demonic but obviously nightmarish. It is anormal to start having constant nightmares and waking up covered in sweat. I don't know about your personal life but it may be due to deep anxieties, stress or a period of trouble. I am not sure what you can do if it goes on and on. Dreams are strange and while it is perfectly normal for your brain to work this out, it may in some cases be paranormal. Perhaps you could consult a therapist or an hypnotist to get to the bottom of it.

A have a nice day. (and night as well :) !)

Edited by sam_comm, 11 June 2013 - 02:36 AM.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 02:36 PM

View PostBluekid123, on 10 June 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

Thank you everyone for the responses. I'm not to worried about the fans because one is a ceiling fan, and the other too are pretty much noiseless. But I do feel like the dream meaning interpretation makes a lot of sense. How would you go about investigating a problem such as a sleeping disorder?

I find that people read too much into what their dreams mean based on the objects in their dreams. Here's the more important question: how did the dream make you FEEL? How did you react? How has it changed your thoughts or decisions? Has it influenced you to take a different perspective or consider things you might not have considered before?

I wouldn't take the dream at face value or try to rationalize why you had this dream (or others for that matter). Instead look for how it affects your future decisions and thoughts, since you have clearly been thrown off from this. All it takes are the slightest insights to have drastic changes in how we live our lives.

Good luck.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:43 PM

First of all being an 'advanced dreamer' is not a gift from God.  It is a learned talent that begins as Mabon said by keeping a dream diary.  After a while of recording your dreams and concentrating on remembering them as you wake, you will be able to lucid dream and have a certain amount of control over them.  Did God do that or did I?  Methinks I did.

It's fun to do.  This kid just had a nightmare.  Lots of people have them.  Some are worse than others.  I have ones that are 30 years old that I still remember and I'm certainly not demon oppressed.  Of course I am bipolar and I do take meds so in other people's opinions I probably am oppressed because I choose to be healthy with the therapy and medicine that God created instead of getting an exorcism from the demon that makes me mentally ill.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:45 PM

View PostHilander, on 11 June 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

I knew someone that had serious lung problems and she was told to keep a fan running because it would help her breath better.

I don't see how a fan could bother you if you are use to it.  Some people can't sleep without them they are so use to the noise.
I think there are conflicting stories. I worked in a care home and those with breathing problems were not allowed fans at night, but this was due to the air current being circulated in a small room with no air conditioning.
I think it depends on a few factors, room size, air circulation and temperature.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:50 PM

Here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

I love you freetoroam, but I had to post this as I had no idea about it.  My daughter is into everything Asian and was telling me about it when I was reading her the thread.

I sleep with a fan and have for years just to drown out noise because EVERYONE is noisy and I'm a light sleeper.  Now I'm freaking paranoid, tyvm!  lol


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 10:32 PM

View PostBluekid123, on 10 June 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

starts with me riding a horse. I come to a place where a demon begins to harass me. He continues to terrify me until I begin to try to fight it, but everytime I do, I go into complete vertigo and cannot determine up from down. Finally, after toying with me for some time, I begin to get my wits and fight the vertigo and attempt to stop the demon. Then when I finally completely stop the vertigo he attacked me and I woke up at his charge.


This means that your soul is being carried by an earth guard who keeps you focused on your earth life. And the guard is a negative being who drives you away from the spiritual realms so you can focus on the material. So it is like a demon servant that you & everybody have.

It is showing you that you are being carried safely but if you reached the point where you knew what was carrying you then you would fight against it & as a result you would lose all sense of positioning in your reality, because it is that being that keeps your soul positioned correctly in reality here.

It's actually a being within you that holds your soul within itself & that's why you could feel that heavy object inside you.

Each & every person has such a negative guard who contains the soul's energies outside the earth plane & keeps the soul thinking it is part of the earth realm. When people start to meditate they often see a large reptile eye staring at them, & this is their negative guard making it's presence known. Other people are given some spiritual freedoms or insights & then the guard appears & frightens them away from the spiritual side & back to the earth side.

So you're just being told that you're being carried safely by another being & if you knew what it was you would fight it & slip from the safe position it holds you in & lose all sense of reality.

You need to, everyone needs to, understand that you have a bad angel & a good one with you & you're going to have to get along with both because they stay with you throughout life.

Quite frankly you could beg the demon to hurt you & it would not. All the fear is your own & when you let go of that fear you'll find that you were never in any danger & are perfectly safe.





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