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#61    Babe Ruth

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

View PostOverSword, on 21 February 2013 - 07:44 PM, said:

Again, I didn't post this as a white vs black thing.  I posted this as an example of the real reason behind gun control.  I don't know how you could read the article and not get that.  The UCLA professor who's work the article is based on clearly said he used to be for gun control until he studied the history of gun control and saw the true purpose behind it.  It's not about guns, the active word is CONTROL.

It's been years, but I once had the opportunity to read selected parts of the debate in Congress as the 14th Amendment was crafted.

It was very clear, and discussed on the floor, that possession of firearms was necessary for the freed slaves to protect themselves, their family, and their property.  Most folks understood that in those days, and the fairly recent Heller case reaffirms that.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:09 PM

View PostOverSword, on 21 February 2013 - 07:44 PM, said:

Again, I didn't post this as a white vs black thing.  I posted this as an example of the real reason behind gun control.  I don't know how you could read the article and not get that.  The UCLA professor who's work the article is based on clearly said he used to be for gun control until he studied the history of gun control and saw the true purpose behind it.  It's not about guns, the active word is CONTROL.
But the real reason originally for it is stated here in the opening post: Sorry, should have ignored this bit.



[The history of gun control in America] was a constant pressure among white racists to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans, because they would rise up and revolt.
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The KKK began as a gun-control organization. Before the Civil War, blacks were never allowed to own guns. During the Civil War, blacks kept guns for the first time – either they served in the Union army and they were allowed to keep their guns, or they buy guns on the open market where for the first time there’s hundreds of thousands of guns flooding the marketplace after the war ends. So they arm up because they know who they’re dealing with in the South. White racists do things like pass laws to disarm them, but that’s not really going to work. So they form these racist posses all over the South to go out at night in large groups to terrorize blacks and take those guns away. If blacks were disarmed, they couldn’t fight back.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 21 February 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

Its the worlds obsession with Americans owning guns that fuels these debates. I can only think of one American (ND) that really has an opposing view on these topics. It is common knowledge that NATO would like the American people disarmed.

That sounds a wee bit paranoid, Asteroid.  (No offence)  Personally, I couldn't care less about US gun ownership and I know no-one who cares either.  It's your own business.  Thugs with guns in the UK, now that I'm interested in.  I don't want to be shot for the lack of shooting back.  lol

I only asked out of curiosity; thinking maybe some American politico was demanding a ban on firearms or some such thing.  (I've been avoiding News programmes on TV cos they are helluva depressing these days, so I'm not as clued-up on world affairs as I should be)


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:37 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 21 February 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

I think we have a Federal Government in violation of Federal Law....But I wasnt going to go there.
yes, just like pretty much any gvmnt in the world, all do same thing, some more some less.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:48 PM

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:15 PM

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I only asked out of curiosity; thinking maybe some American politico was demanding a ban on firearms or some such thing

Google Diane Feinstein Gun Control


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

View Postfreetoroam, on 21 February 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

But the real reason originally for it is stated here in the opening post: Sorry, should have ignored this bit.



[The history of gun control in America] was a constant pressure among white racists to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans, because they would rise up and revolt.
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The KKK began as a gun-control organization. Before the Civil War, blacks were never allowed to own guns. During the Civil War, blacks kept guns for the first time – either they served in the Union army and they were allowed to keep their guns, or they buy guns on the open market where for the first time there’s hundreds of thousands of guns flooding the marketplace after the war ends. So they arm up because they know who they’re dealing with in the South. White racists do things like pass laws to disarm them, but that’s not really going to work. So they form these racist posses all over the South to go out at night in large groups to terrorize blacks and take those guns away. If blacks were disarmed, they couldn’t fight back.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:34 PM

Benn Swan is awesome



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:42 PM

Good work by Ben Swann! :tu:





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