THE MATRIX Posted April 1, 2010 #1 Share Posted April 1, 2010 link SAN FRANCISCO — In a repudiation of the Bush administration's now-defunct terrorist surveillance effort, a federal judge ruled Wednesday that government investigators illegally wiretapped the phone conversations of an Islamic charity and two American lawyers without a search warrant.U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker said the plaintiffs provided enough evidence to show "they were subjected to warrantless electronic surveillance" by the National Security Agency. The judge's 45-page ruling focused narrowly on the case involving the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, touching vaguely on the larger question of the program's legality. Nonetheless, Al-Haramain lawyer Jon Eisenberg said the ruling had larger implications. "By virtue of finding what the Bush administration did to our clients was illegal, he found that the Terrorist Surveillance Program was unlawful," Eisenberg said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp840tril Posted April 1, 2010 #2 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Why aren't these idiot tea partiers protesting this which is a clear violation of fundamental rights, and by the way far worse than any health care bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted April 1, 2010 #3 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Why aren't these idiot tea partiers protesting this which is a clear violation of fundamental rights, and by the way far worse than any health care bill Because Fox News didn't tell them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poopie Posted April 1, 2010 #4 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Why aren't these idiot tea partiers protesting this which is a clear violation of fundamental rights, and by the way far worse than any health care bill Because Fox News didn't tell them to. What rights are being violated? Please specify in fact rather than sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Startraveler Posted April 1, 2010 #5 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Probably the ones in the Fourth Amendment. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshsluss Posted April 1, 2010 #6 Share Posted April 1, 2010 What rights are being violated? Please specify in fact rather than sarcasm. I agree, there are no rights being violated. People want to hate this tea party movement but the same thing was being done when Bush was in office. Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poopie Posted April 1, 2010 #7 Share Posted April 1, 2010 There's a valid argument in the patriot act being somewhat unconstitutional, but my opinion is the change is necessary due to the threat of terrorism teamed with the evolution of technological communication... I might not like my privacy being violated, but for the sake of safety, I'll chew on a lil something I don't completely agree with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshsluss Posted April 1, 2010 #8 Share Posted April 1, 2010 There's a valid argument in the patriot act being somewhat unconstitutional, but my opinion is the change is necessary due to the threat of terrorism teamed with the evolution of technological communication... I might not like my privacy being violated, but for the sake of safety, I'll chew on a lil something I don't completely agree with... What proof do you have that this law is only following terrorist? Why do you feel your rights haven't been violated when by all means they have? Just asking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp840tril Posted April 1, 2010 #9 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Bush came the closest to a true dictatoship than any other president, I'm glad the bush dynasty is finished, all they have left are the dying voices of limbaugh and prostitute palin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted April 1, 2010 #10 Share Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) <sorry>... i farted... Edited April 1, 2010 by acidhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted April 1, 2010 #11 Share Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) Bush came the closest to a true dictatoship than any other president, I'm glad the bush dynasty is finished, all they have left are the dying voices of limbaugh and prostitute palin. Really? The ruling came after U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said the lawsuit threatened to expose ongoing intelligence work and must be thrown out. In making the argument, the Obama administration agreed with the Bush administration's position on the case but insisted it came to the decision differently. Holder's effort to stop the lawsuit marked the first time the administration has tried to invoke the state secrets privilege. Under the strategy, the government can have a lawsuit dismissed if hearing the case would jeopardize national security. Holder said Judge Walker had been given a classified description of why the case must be dismissed so the court could "conduct its own independent assessment of our claim." Edited April 1, 2010 by AROCES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted April 1, 2010 #12 Share Posted April 1, 2010 link A US lefty, liberal district judge from San Franciso..... Wont go anywhere really except give the left something to get high on for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Startraveler Posted April 1, 2010 #13 Share Posted April 1, 2010 U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker said the plaintiffs provided enough evidence to show "they were subjected to warrantless electronic surveillance" by the National Security Agency. A US lefty, liberal district judge from San Franciso..... Wont go anywhere really except give the left something to get high on for the day. Do you ever, ever try to have some rudimentary command of the facts before you speak? Nevermind, don't bother answering that. Vaugh Walker: Walker believes in a legal approach known as law and economics. Walker's original nomination to the bench by Ronald Reagan in 1987 stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee because of controversy over his representation of the United States Olympic Committee in a lawsuit that prohibited the use of the title "Gay Olympics." Two dozen House Democrats, led by Rep. Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco, opposed his nomination because of his alleged "insensitivity" to gays and the poor. A Reagan-appointed Posner disciple opposed by Nancy Pelosi is a "lefty, liberal district judge." Genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted April 1, 2010 #14 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Do you ever, ever try to have some rudimentary command of the facts before you speak? Nevermind, don't bother answering that. Vaugh Walker: Walker believes in a legal approach known as law and economics. Walker's original nomination to the bench by Ronald Reagan in 1987 stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee because of controversy over his representation of the United States Olympic Committee in a lawsuit that prohibited the use of the title "Gay Olympics." Two dozen House Democrats, led by Rep. Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco, opposed his nomination because of his alleged "insensitivity" to gays and the poor. A Reagan-appointed Posner disciple opposed by Nancy Pelosi is a "lefty, liberal district judge." Genius. Well, he has been in San Francisco for many years. Maybe Reagan wont even recognize him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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