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[Coffey]

and then, on 27 March 2013 - 08:26 AM, said:

The definition of genocide by the UN in 1944 is quite broad and can be used against nearly ANY group within the context of war.  But to say there has been a systematic attempt to destroy the population of non Israelis in Palestine is ridiculous.  The NUMBERS just don't bear it out.  If the Israelis are guilty of genocide then so are the US, British, Russians, Rwandans..... any group at war with another group - so what meaning does the term have?
Sorry, do not mean to derail, just get tired of the casual use of a truly AWFUL word/concept.

Trying to destroy another group of people because of their religion/race is Genocide.

Yes most countries on this planet have done genocide at some point. You are living on land where genocide was done by Europeans....

Oh by the way, when does the Native Americans get their own country? Isn't that why they let the Jews have Israel? Why not the Native Americans?

Edited by Coffey, 27 March 2013 - 11:25 AM.

[Frank Merton]

The Jews took Israel and did something with it, just as the Europeans took North America and did something with it.  That is all water long under the bridge.

[and then]

Coffey, on 27 March 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

Trying to destroy another group of people because of their religion/race is Genocide.

Yes most countries on this planet have done genocide at some point. You are living on land where genocide was done by Europeans....

Oh by the way, when does the Native Americans get their own country? Isn't that why they let the Jews have Israel? Why not the Native Americans?

Yes, I agree that the treatment of the native Americans was a genocide.  Millions died or were displaced.  But my point is that the original use of that word was horrific.  Millions dead and with the intent that NONE should survive.  The majority of Jews have never asked for this outcome against anyone.  One could cite hundreds of Palestinian, Arab, Muslim quotes asking for just such an end to all Jews.  It's an endless argument Coffey but the main point is that saying Israel commits systematic murder of an entire race of people is intentionally false - period.

[Coffey]

and then, on 27 March 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

Yes, I agree that the treatment of the native Americans was a genocide.  Millions died or were displaced.  But my point is that the original use of that word was horrific.  Millions dead and with the intent that NONE should survive.  The majority of Jews have never asked for this outcome against anyone.  One could cite hundreds of Palestinian, Arab, Muslim quotes asking for just such an end to all Jews.  It's an endless argument Coffey but the main point is that saying Israel commits systematic murder of an entire race of people is intentionally false - period.

I would never say ll Jews think like that. I know for a fact they don't. I have nothing against honest and kind Jews. Same s honest and kind Muslims. The Zionist Extreme Jews who run Israel are evil and believe they are superior to all others especially Arabs etc. They are causing genocide, they are killing and torturing a group of people based on their race/religion.

Jews should never have been given Israel. It was a stupid idea. I don't mind them being given their own land, but choosing to be in the middle of another race/religion that they dislike and taking their land is just asking for trouble. It's like a Nazi wanting to live in the middle of Israel.

Edited by Coffey, 27 March 2013 - 11:46 AM.

[The New Richard Nixon]

North Korea please this is about North Korea not Israel or anyone else

[Corp]

Indeed. If you want to talk about Israel take it to one of the many Israel threads in the Middle East forum. This is for talking about how crazy North Korea is.