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Poll: Do you believe ghosts are real? (77 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you believe ghosts are real?

  1. Yes (53 votes [68.83%])

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  2. No (24 votes [31.17%])

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#16    DancingCorpse

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:12 AM

I certainly believe in the existence of 'ghosts' but why they appear is a totally different tangent.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:26 AM

What would be 'convincing' evidence of something that doesn't exist physically? How would that work?

Do ghosts exist only in the mind? Totally possible. But would that make them 'not real'? That comes down to personal opinion.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:28 PM

just because science says something doesn't exist, doesn't make Science right.Science is arrogant and dismisses anything it can't explain or understand.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:44 PM

It's funny -- when I was younger I had a couple of experiences that I won't bother you with since it is all just testimony but that certainly convinced me.

As time has passed and memories have become dimmer, I am not so convinced.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:43 PM

View Postali smack, on 02 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

just because science says something doesn't exist, doesn't make Science right.Science is arrogant and dismisses anything it can't explain or understand.

That statement is utter absurd.  Every single scientific discover started with someone not being able to explain something or understand it.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:19 PM

View Postscowl, on 01 February 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Science can't prove something doesn't exist.
But so far the believers can`t prove it does.......................................oh and  forget  about youtube!

I do not believe in ghosts as such, but do believe in imprints from time, in the right conditions. We can see stars which died millions of years ago, but we can see them now and today although they are not there anymore, they are still being transported to us.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:07 AM

And to the non believers it will never be proven.    And how many skeptics truly have an open mind about these things?     What people don't realize is your mind filters out alot of what you see hear and smell automatically .   This can be proven by blind folding your self for 1 hour.

As for evidence well. What counts as hard evidence?    Not pictures, video,  voice recorders, or instrument readings.     So what is allowed?     That's like telling a mechanic he cant use any tools to fix your car.     Ask your self where science would be with out there equipment.

Ghost hunters are up against  so many variables its unpredictable whether or not your going to get anything in the first place. Then skeptics and non believers. That wont except what they do get do to the many frauds out there trying to get a couple min of fame.  


I have a challenge for the non believers . Become a ghost hunter for a few months.    Go buy about $1500 worth of equipment out of your own pocket. And spent countless hours hunting and reviewing our own stuff.  To be told your faking evidence and ridiculed.   Then ask your self why?   If ghosts don't exist then why do we do it?

Edited by lone wolf2, 03 February 2013 - 11:11 AM.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:27 PM

View Postglorybebe, on 01 February 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

My personal experiences make me a believer in ghosts.  No one can convince me they don't exist.  I do have a belief that science will someday be able to do more than just say they don't exist.

I agree and also due to my personal experiences makes me a believer.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 02 February 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

But so far the believers can`t prove it does.......................................oh and  forget  about youtube!

I do not believe in ghosts as such, but do believe in imprints from time, in the right conditions. We can see stars which died millions of years ago, but we can see them now and today although they are not there anymore, they are still being transported to us.

I went to a paranormal conference yesterday, and someone from Ghost Hunters International was talking about the same general idea relating to what ghosts might actually be. It was a very interesting theory, about possible time bleed throughs involving past, present, and future.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:44 PM

These energy imprints from time does it also count if a spirit has never been in that location before? I ask because I know someone who had two spirits visit them and she saw them standing there in solid form. They have never been to her house before they died so I have been trying to figure out if its real or maybe an imprint?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:12 PM

View Postknoga, on 03 February 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

These energy imprints from time does it also count if a spirit has never been in that location before? I ask because I know someone who had two spirits visit them and she saw them standing there in solid form. They have never been to her house before they died so I have been trying to figure out if its real or maybe an imprint?

There's another theory that ghosts can be simply a type of thought or emotion forms sent out (usually unknowingly) by people, be they dead or alive. A strong emotion or thought tied to a person or place. So much so that the person might even actually see them there.

All just ideas.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

Thank you _Only. That could be a possibility with one but the other spirit she hadn't seen for about 35 yrs. She didn't even know he was dead until he appeared in her house. Not sure what to think about this.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:04 PM

View Postlone wolf2, on 03 February 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

I have a challenge for the non believers . Become a ghost hunter for a few months. Go buy about $1500 worth of equipment out of your own pocket. And spent countless hours hunting and reviewing our own stuff.  ...........................   If ghosts don't exist then why do we do it?

I have, for more then a few months. I am not going to buy $1500.00 of equipment , equipment manufactured for something other then " ghost hunting " , yet claimed to find ghosts.

I do not need to, tens of thousands of people all ready do this. And not one piece of credible evidence, not even enough to get the Scientific community to take notice.

If ghost don't exist, why do we do it?.......A hobby, a addiction, ignorance, and blind faith.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

I'm curious how you people with these theories define the word "energy."

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:38 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 03 February 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

I'm curious how you people with these theories define the word "energy."

In this case, thought and emotion. Energy of the mind.

Edited by _Only, 03 February 2013 - 05:39 PM.

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