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[Damian Bâthory]

The guy will just say what he wants...use the so called translation to his advantage , publish a book of his translation, curious nuts will buy it and 50% will beleive the translation, and the guy will get rich over the whole thing, remember it say's in the article that he's a businessman.
Eventually specialist will prove the whole thing is a hoax like the Hitler diary, and the guy will laugh about the whole thing on a beach in Hawai...

[KainFall]

encouraged, on 04 December 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

I must admit the article was interesting but the responses on here are even more so. The remarks on here reminded me of the golden telephone joke.

Everywhere this dude traveled, the world over, in each temple or sacred site, was a gold telephone and a note: "Phone calls to god." Then a stated astronomical price! One day he went to the glass temple in Arkansas, where he saw a gold telephone and the same note. The charge for the call was 25 cents. The man asked why the call was so cheep, when he had seen so many similar phones that charged huge amounts of money. The answer was, "It is a local call."

That is how Arkansans proclaim Arkansas is heaven on Earth. LOL

Im not gonna lie, who says that dumb.. cause I am Realitys God. An im aloud to speak out about it as much as I want. Iv just chosen not too.. I live in arkansas. Also there use to be a time when Reality was more at peace and i asked that a gold telephone be placed in all the temples and sacred sites out of curiousity of real world. back when I was free to be on my own and do what I want. But I spent 24/7 in my home in deep contemplation. and as far as answering the calls. that was all in my mind/head. And before ascending back into real world SOmetime round this time, I proclaimed the sin/zen? in arkansas to resemble that of heavens. because they refused to believe that of which they knew.... And because there state of mind were so close to that of heavens i thought theyd deserved the light. .  An as far as this person and this manuscript. He did come to me before coming to earth. An he told me of how he was dedicating his life to this. WHy idk. but got to admit I can/could see the entire book just because. an I can say thats pretty realistic. But I believe he knows what he is talking bout.

Edited by KainFall, 07 December 2011 - 08:08 AM.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Damian Bâthory, on 07 December 2011 - 06:17 AM, said:

The guy will just say what he wants...use the so called translation to his advantage , publish a book of his translation, curious nuts will buy it and 50% will beleive the translation, and the guy will get rich over the whole thing, remember it say's in the article that he's a businessman.

Or worse, he becomes the new Sitchin.

[MrSkeptical]

Sounds fantastic to me.

[encouraged]

KainFall, on 07 December 2011 - 07:40 AM, said:

Im not gonna lie, who says that dumb.. cause I am Realitys God. An im aloud to speak out about it as much as I want. Iv just chosen not too.. I live in arkansas. Also there use to be a time when Reality was more at peace and i asked that a gold telephone be placed in all the temples and sacred sites out of curiousity of real world. back when I was free to be on my own and do what I want. But I spent 24/7 in my home in deep contemplation. and as far as answering the calls. that was all in my mind/head. And before ascending back into real world SOmetime round this time, I proclaimed the sin/zen? in arkansas to resemble that of heavens. because they refused to believe that of which they knew.... And because there state of mind were so close to that of heavens i thought theyd deserved the light. .  An as far as this person and this manuscript. He did come to me before coming to earth. An he told me of how he was dedicating his life to this. WHy idk. but got to admit I can/could see the entire book just because. an I can say thats pretty realistic. But I believe he knows what he is talking bout.

Wearer of Hats, on 07 December 2011 - 07:40 AM, said:

Or worse, he becomes the new Sitchin.

MrSkeptical, on 07 December 2011 - 09:52 AM, said:

Sounds fantastic to me.

Say, what?

By the way, this sitchin you often refer to is someone I've never heard of... Would you have a link, so I can get caught up?

Never mind. I just read up on him! What odd company to keep!

Edited by encouraged, 07 December 2011 - 12:35 PM.

[Rye17]

encouraged, on 04 December 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

If anyone wants to try their hand at deciphering a cryptogram, the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigations has asked for help on these notes found in a murder victim's pocket. FBI cryptographers and the American Cryptogram Association have not been able to crack it. So, bragging rights are in store for the person or UM group who does.

I am probably wrong but from my perspective I see a lot of car mechanic terms in it, but I'm not a gear head. Perhaps a gear head can crack it.

They have a dedicated page to submit your answer, but it strips out all formatting, so I sent my progress reports through the St. Louis field office e-mail address. I have not been able to make progress on the work any further. Good Luck!

View: Ricky McCormick murder

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As to god... I was thinking the concept was not attributed to anybody, government or race, yet, and that the experts think it evolved with the development of man.

It amazes me how so many topics on here end up going off topic to talk about religious or non-religious thoughts. I was under the impression that we have forums dedicated to those discussions already.

I must admit the article was interesting but the responses on here are even more so. The remarks on here reminded me of the golden telephone joke.

Everywhere this dude traveled, the world over, in each temple or sacred site, was a gold telephone and a note: "Phone calls to god." Then a stated astronomical price! One day he went to the glass temple in Arkansas, where he saw a gold telephone and the same note. The charge for the call was 25 cents. The man asked why the call was so cheep, when he had seen so many similar phones that charged huge amounts of money. The answer was, "It is a local call."

That is how Arkansans proclaim Arkansas is heaven on Earth. LOL

I thought they already decoded that... http://www.castiglio...id=123&Itemid=1

Edited by Rye17, 08 December 2011 - 05:20 PM.

[encouraged]

Rye17, on 08 December 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

I thought they already decoded that... http://www.castiglio...id=123&Itemid=1

Thanks for the heads up!

That was reported right about the time I got tired of trying to report using interlinear text processing notes and having the format stripped out by the website. The comments following are a treasure of notes on the work!

If this is right, it must be some kind of medical condition he was keeping records of. I wonder if the FBI has recognized it as solved? I also wonder why the FBI would not have notified the people who have tried to be helpful--not a good way to keep up a good image with the public, and boy are they needing that good image!

Edited by encouraged, 08 December 2011 - 07:21 PM.

[Ell]

If I recall correctly, the Voynich manuscript was mathematically proven to be a fraud.

[Cryptozological Mascot]

How would one mathematically prove something to be a fraud if there is no known way of translating it?

[questionmark]

Cryptozological Mascot, on 09 December 2011 - 07:34 PM, said:

How would one mathematically prove something to be a fraud if there is no known way of translating it?

The ways of the guild of quacks are multiple....

But you can show mathematically whether something coded is consistent with written language and what language you are dealing with. That is one of the simplest tools of a code breaker's tool box.

Now as far as I remember the Voynich thingy was tested several times and the results were always: No known language.

There are several other ways to code using symbols referring to language (when I was young there used to be Eastern radio transmitters repeating hour after hour numbers, they were referring to words in a certain book or magazine by page, line and word number). That, unless you have the right book or magazine is unbreakable. (Mostly we had the right book or magazine). If that would be the case there would be no chance in deciphering it.

[fueled]

If we take total logic from this equation and use a direct link to our instinctual senses it seems to me the Voynich is using a language of pure vibration and energy.  When our senses first encounter anything our logic mind kicks in and through programming and conditioning we come to a (logical evaluation)  The Voynich if you study the pictures and form of writing deals directly to core emotions and vibrations which in my opinion is why nobody has so called cracked the code....

[Diablo Blanco]

reggie2011, on 03 December 2011 - 01:53 PM, said:

lol god? when will people stop beliving in such roman pushing nonsence from 2000 years ago it was a huge political stunt that caused nothing but death and still breeds indifference, were all afraid of death but at least i dont need a fairytale to belive in

[DieChecker]

questionmark, on 09 December 2011 - 08:27 PM, said:

The ways of the guild of quacks are multiple....

But you can show mathematically whether something coded is consistent with written language and what language you are dealing with. That is one of the simplest tools of a code breaker's tool box.

Now as far as I remember the Voynich thingy was tested several times and the results were always: No known language.

There are several other ways to code using symbols referring to language (when I was young there used to be Eastern radio transmitters repeating hour after hour numbers, they were referring to words in a certain book or magazine by page, line and word number). That, unless you have the right book or magazine is unbreakable. (Mostly we had the right book or magazine). If that would be the case there would be no chance in deciphering it.

That is right. Most experts say there are almost as many symbols in the Voynich Manuscript as there are characters. That would mean that there much be dozens or hundreds of symbols for any one letter or number. The CIA codebreaking programs with Supercomputer usage found there was nothing in it that indicated actual language, just randomly assigned symbols.

It is a piece of art people, not an alien cookbook or whatever the Flaver of the Month idea is....