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#16    Karlis

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 04:34 AM

View Postacidhead, on 01 June 2012 - 03:48 AM, said:

Listen to Luke interview *Snip* [Lawrence O'Donnell] from msnbc....

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If one considers Lawrence O'Donnell's belief system -- the person being "interviewed" in this video clip -- perhaps one can see why this leading News Personality from a major TV Network is so non-committal in his responses. Maybe one could even be forgiven for thinking that Lawrence O'Donnell has a pro-Bilderberg agenda?

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O'Donnell called himself a "practical European socialist" in a 2005 interview.[2] Despite regularly expressing support for regulated capitalism and mixed economies, O'Donnell again declared himself a "socialist" on the November 6, 2010 Morning Joe show, stating: "I am not a progressive. I am not a liberal who is so afraid of the word that I had to change my name to 'progressive'. Liberals amuse me. I am a socialist. I lie to the extreme left, the extreme left of you mere liberals."[27] On the 1 August 2011 episode of The Last Word, O'Donnell further explained, "I have been calling myself a socialist ever since I first read the definition of socialism in the first economics class I took in college." O'Donnell went on to state that what he means by calling himself a socialist is


Not that we choose the socialist option every time but we do consider socialism a reasonable option under certain circumstances; in fact, under many circumstances. As any introductory economics course can tell you, there is no capitalist economy anywhere in the world, and there is no socialist economy anywhere in the world, not even Cuba. We are all mixed economies; that is, mixes of capitalism and socialism, and we all vary that mix in different ways. ... I can argue this because every side of this is true: capitalism is good, capitalism is bad; socialism is good, socialism is bad; all of those things are true at the same time. That's why we have a mixed economy, an economy in which we are trying to use the best, most efficient forms of capitalism, and the best, most efficient forms of socialism, where necessary. So my full truth is I am as much a capitalist as I am a socialist; but since we live in the only mature country in the world where "socialist" is considered such a dirty word that no one would dare admit to being one, I feel more compelled to stand up for the socialist side of me than the capitalist side of me.[28]  Source



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Posted 01 June 2012 - 04:35 AM

Lou Dobbs is polite and does acknowledge Bilderberg..... yet he doesn't want to offer an opinion....... gee.... I wonder why?.... Could it be that he reported alot on NAFTA and Obama's BC and was quickly fired from CNN and somebody fired a few bullets at his house????

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 04:48 AM

This one takes the cake....


NY Times Editor-in-Chief Jill Abramson Runs From Bilderberg Question



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Posted 01 June 2012 - 06:50 AM

Good videos, acidhead. Thanks for posting them. I watched them all.

As much I am against the Bilderberg Group, at least I have an idea of what their doing and why. It's totally wrong, but I'm knowledgeable enough to understand how these people see things and what their agendas are.

What puzzles me though, is that others could watch each and everyone of those videos and still give a response like this.


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Posted 01 June 2012 - 08:32 AM

View PostAngel Left Wing, on 01 June 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

Good videos, acidhead. Thanks for posting them. I watched them all.

As much I am against the Bilderberg Group, at least I have an idea of what their doing and why. It's totally wrong, but I'm knowledgeable enough to understand how these people see things and what their agendas are.

What puzzles me though, is that others could watch each and everyone of those videos and still give a response like this.
Have a little trouble with following timed sequences there Angel Left Wing?  Uhh, those vids were posted AFTER the comments you cited.  I watched some of them and was actually impressed with the level of anger in the last one.  They definitely have the look of a group not wanting to be bothered.  But give ME some credit as well.  You have this super secret, assumed to be nefarious group meeting annually.  They KNOW they are the subject of great speculation and intrepid reporters will be all over them yet they rent out a friggin' Marriot?  Any one of them could host such a conference in their homes with better security if they really had something to hide.  While we're on the subject, what is it exactly that you suppose they do?

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 08:43 AM

Surely the Bilderbergs and their Giant Owl are hardly very secret now, thanks to people like the good Alex Jones and Jon Ronson. I'm sure that, like all these Conferences, nothing at all of any significance is done there; with mdoern communications it's hardly necessary to have all the Great and good- well, the Great anyway in one place, is it, I'm sure all the important business is decided by the medium of secure communications from their Secret Bunkers. these are all just opportunities to thoroughly test the contents of the hotel bars, aren't they, Conferences always are.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 08:51 AM

View Postand then, on 01 June 2012 - 08:32 AM, said:

Any one of them could host such a conference in their homes with better security if they really had something to hide.  While we're on the subject, what is it exactly that you suppose they do?


I didn't link to your post for a reason. I did give you some credit even though I thought you scoffed at the subject without being very informed about it.

I linked to Rafterman's comment because I've heard his thoughts about things like Bohemian Grove before and I am fairly certain that he could watch the videos acidhead posted and still act like there is nothing wrong with what the Bilderberg Group does or even admit to how ridiculously secretive the meeting itself (as opposed to its locaion) is. There are plenty others like him as well.

I think you are being a bit naive in your belief that they could hold this conference more secretively at one's house. These people come from all over the world and the attendance is over 100. There are other reasons as well, but I'm a bit too tired to get into them at this very moment.

As for what they discuss, I believe they discuss what the reporters question them about in the videos acidhead posted. Their own "official" website even lists a "New World Order" as one of the topics they talk about at this meeting. There's much more, but again, I'm about ready to sleep so I'll have to get into it later.

Edited by Angel Left Wing, 01 June 2012 - 09:02 AM.


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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:01 AM

Anything Kissinger is involved with is good for some  .. and bad for most.   imo

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:25 AM

View Postand then, on 31 May 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

I also find it a bit odd that the world's greatest conglomeration of Billionaires would need to rent out a Marriot.  It will be interesting to see if any photographers capture the famous, filthy rich on cam.  I wouldn't be surprised to find the whole thing was a diversion from where the real meeting was being held.....or for that matter, it could even just be an elaborate joke.  Those dastardly 1% ers are like that, ya know? :w00t:

I've often thought that as well.  I wonder if they take the housekeeping and banquet staff out and execute them following each meeting.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:38 AM

View PostAngel Left Wing, on 01 June 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:



The meeting itself is no longer "shockingly secret!" No one has said it is anymore (thanks to the internet - and even then it's only been in more recent years that the "secrecy" label has been shed a bit). Nonetheless, if it weren't for people that oppose this gathering there would be far less mainstream "references" to the meeting than there all ready is - contrary to your statements above.

Also, merely "referencing" the meeting is far from reporting on it. Please show me, or tell me, of one mainstream news outlet on television that reported on this conference. Then, if you are able to find any, please direct me to any that did an in-depth report on what actually takes place at the Bilderberg meetings.

If you could direct me to a mainstream news outlet's website that gives an in-depth report on what goes on at this meeting I'd like to see that as well.

When I do a Google News search for "Bilderberg" the only links to anything that could be considered mainstream outlets about the gathering is to The Washington Times and The Huffington Post. There is nothing from ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, USAToday, FOX, and numerous numbers of newspapers.

The main thing I've seen discussed on these stations today is the John Edwards trial with nothing at all being said in regards to Bilderberg.

Well, let's see, the HuffPo piece links a FoxNews video so that's a mainstream outlet.  So who else is there, the Guardian, Pravda,and the Daily Mail - all mainstream outlets.

As to reporting on it, why is that important to you?  It's a private meeting that doesn't allow outside press - just like tens of thousands of other meetings that will be going on around the world today.

BTW, you know they have a website right which list agendas, discussions sessions, governance, and all participants.

The most unsecret secret group in the world apparently.

I'll refer you to Brian Dunning's Skeptoid episode on the Bilderbergs:  http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4225

It's quite interesting and not grounded in the paranoia that is so prevalent in these discussions.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:40 AM

View PostAngel Left Wing, on 01 June 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

Good videos, acidhead. Thanks for posting them. I watched them all.

As much I am against the Bilderberg Group, at least I have an idea of what their doing and why. It's totally wrong, but I'm knowledgeable enough to understand how these people see things and what their agendas are.

What puzzles me though, is that others could watch each and everyone of those videos and still give a response like this.

Again, you assertion was that the Bilderberg meeting isn't mentioned in the MSM and I have shown that it is.  Any other interpretation of my comments is simply your inference.

I'm curious, what do YOU think is happening at this meeting?

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 12:30 PM

View PostRafterman, on 01 June 2012 - 11:40 AM, said:

Again, you assertion was that the Bilderberg meeting isn't mentioned in the MSM and I have shown that it is.  Any other interpretation of my comments is simply your inference.

My assertion is that it isn't discussed in the mainstream media, and it isn't. You've proven this yourself even though you fail to realize it.

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I'm curious, what do YOU think is happening at this meeting?

Among other things discussions about how they plan to put their agendas into action over the upcoming year (or years) and plans to implement a New World Order and one world currency.

You may want to be careful before laughing at the New World Order part - it's actually listed as one of the things they discuss on their "official" website.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 12:55 PM

View PostRafterman, on 01 June 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Well, let's see, the HuffPo piece links a FoxNews video so that's a mainstream outlet.  So who else is there, the Guardian, Pravda,and the Daily Mail - all mainstream outlets.

I love how ABC, NBC, CBS, USAToday, CNN, MSNBC and CNBC along with numerous newspapers make no mention of it and yet you act like the mainstream media is covering this event. Others are smart enough to know that they don't and when they read these posts they notice it as well.

And again, even those that "mention" Bilderberg don't "cover" it. There is a big difference.

View PostRafterman, on 01 June 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

As to reporting on it, why is that important to you?  It's a private meeting that doesn't allow outside press - just like tens of thousands of other meetings that will be going on around the world today.

Well you know what, if the Nickelodeon company wants to discuss their programming I don't really care. If Walmart wants to discuss a new product to be placed in their store, I don't care. If Coca-Cola wants to hold a meeting discussing a new flavor their making - again, I don't care. Their private businesses that don't have much impact on my life.

When some of the most elite leaders and businessmen, etc from around the world get together in private to discuss things like a New World Order and then refuse to answer questions posed to them about it, it sends up a red flag. So does the fact that people who attend the meeting claim they didn't and others pretend they've never even heard of the Bilderberg Group. Others attend the conference in secrecy - like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did in 2008.

It isn't right. It isn't how government is supposed to be run - especially in America.

If you can't understand the difference between why a meeting such as Bilderberg is noteworthy and why what goes on in a supermarket meeting isn't than you shouldn't even bother with this conversation.

View PostRafterman, on 01 June 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

BTW, you know they have a website right which list agendas, discussions sessions, governance, and all participants.

Yes, I do. And guess what, I linked to it in my opening post. :w00t:

Now let me guess - you think that website tells you everything about what goes on at these Bilderberg conferences, right? Well, if that's the case, why can't the media cover the event and why won't anyone who attends the meeting discuss it when asked about it?

You really don't understand why that is suspicous? You don't understand why it's wrong for governments to hide such information from the public?

View PostRafterman, on 01 June 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

The most unsecret secret group in the world apparently.

Guess what - I guarantee you the large majority of the population of America isn't aware of the Bilderberg Group. And that's in a day and age where the internet has made it so much easier for people to become aware of such things.

View PostRafterman, on 01 June 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

I'll refer you to Brian Dunning's Skeptoid episode on the Bilderbergs:  http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4225

It's quite interesting and not grounded in the paranoia that is so prevalent in these discussions.

And I'll direct you to the videos acidhead posted. They are far more telling about Bilderberg and the secrecy around it.

If this article you link me to is as "informative" as the Bohemian Grove article you posted was (after which posting you bailed on the discussion) I think I'll pass this time as it doesn't tell you much of anything and you only ignore the information presented that stands in contrast to the article you feel comfortable believing in.

Edited by Angel Left Wing, 01 June 2012 - 01:47 PM.


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Posted 01 June 2012 - 05:15 PM

Shouldn't these guys own dozens of hotels and what not? Why do they need to rent a place?

And I think I'm with 747400 on this one. They've been holding meetings on one world currency and the NWO for years now, and what do they have to show for it? Nothing. Clearly these conferences are very unproductive.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 05:20 PM

View PostCorp, on 01 June 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

Clearly these conferences are very unproductive.


The Bilderberg members would obviously disagree. And again, the New World Order isn't made up, they list it on their own site as one of the things they discuss.

It's odd how people once laughed off the idea of a New World Order even being a thought any members of the "elite" held, yet now it is slipping into public discussion with people acting like it is still nothing. Strange....





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