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#781    Babe Ruth

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

30 types of ammo at the house?  Wow, that makes them kinda like specialists in the field.  Plus, the kid is awesome sharpshooter with a rifle, even at close range.  Without full auto he got 2 rounds maybe 10 in each body, goes the story.

This kid shoots better than Hani could fly! :clap:


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:39 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 30 March 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

30 types of ammo at the house?  Wow, that makes them kinda like specialists in the field.  Plus, the kid is awesome sharpshooter with a rifle, even at close range.  Without full auto he got 2 rounds maybe 10 in each body, goes the story.

With 18 of them trapped in a cupboard, I expect most people's grandmothers could have put at least two bullets in each of them. One or more to knock them down, one afterwards to the head to make sure.

Literally like shooting fish in a barrel.

Edited by Tiggs, 30 March 2013 - 10:09 PM.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 04:06 AM

What i ment was the guy made his daugthers Facebook page the morning of the shooting watch the video.but i could be wrong this guyis on facebook and u have a nut shooting he should went down to the store.and the guy laughing and he see's the camara on and he changes.i dont know what to think


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 04:31 AM

View Postcoolguy, on 31 March 2013 - 04:06 AM, said:

What i ment was the guy made his daugthers Facebook page the morning of the shooting watch the video.but i could be wrong this guyis on facebook and u have a nut shooting he should went down to the store.and the guy laughing and he see's the camara on and he changes.i dont know what to think
Are you talking about Robbie Parker? If you are, I thought that was weird too.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:31 PM

View PostTiggs, on 30 March 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

With 18 of them trapped in a cupboard, I expect most people's grandmothers could have put at least two bullets in each of them. One or more to knock them down, one afterwards to the head to make sure.

Literally like shooting fish in a barrel.

Probably just a figure of speech, but how do you know they were trapped in a cupboard?  How do you know in which rooms they were arranged?

Have you fired the AR-15 series?

Figuratively like shooting fish in a barrel, except the firing perspective is not from overhead, but from the side.

Edited by Babe Ruth, 31 March 2013 - 01:32 PM.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 04:01 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 31 March 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Probably just a figure of speech, but how do you know they were trapped in a cupboard? How do you know in which rooms they were arranged?
Because the emergency services audio I've linked discusses both location and body count.


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Have you fired the AR-15 series?
No. Not my style, but I'm reliably told that "even younger kids are able to use an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle with ease".


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Figuratively like shooting fish in a barrel, except the firing perspective is not from overhead, but from the side.
Not to mention the whole lack of water thing.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:58 PM

Its rediculous when people deny the very possibilty that there is something more than what the media has reported going on. Even if youre "in the know" I really doubt youre so deep you've been granted access to black suit operations. I believe we dont have thw whole story and the government is running offense on this event. I dont know who killed thos people, and it really doesnt matteras much as the obvious manipulation by either the media, government or both. The fact that our powers that be continue to curb popular opinion is just disgusting. Im a patriot and i love my country but I wouldnt p*** on the Pentagon if it were on fire.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 08:08 PM

LOL Tiggs.  I thought about the lack of water thing as I was writing it, but went ahead on.

I appreciate that information regarding your hearing audio tapes.  I will search back and listen, thanks.

Using such a rifle is not really difficult.  One or two simple procedures, and it works like crazy.

No, the trick is hitting the target.  The trick is putting the round where you want it to be.  And being skeptical of the ability of an untrained awkward boy to be so very effective with the weapon is what got me started on questioning the story.

If the weapon had been fully automatic, it might be understandable.  But having to pull the trigger each time, moving small targets with supposedly defensive adults nearby as he reloads twice?  That makes it harder to believe. 5 round average in each body makes it harder to believe too.  No video of the perp entering the building, well...makes it hard to believe.  Preponderance of the evidence.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:01 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 31 March 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

LOL Tiggs.  I thought about the lack of water thing as I was writing it, but went ahead on.
Well, indeed.

That's why I used the words "Literally like" instead of just "Literally", as it actually does refer to shooting things enclosed within a small space as opposed to the usual figurative meaning of "Shooting fish in a barrel" which is "Easy".


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I appreciate that information regarding your hearing audio tapes.  I will search back and listen, thanks.

Using such a rifle is not really difficult.  One or two simple procedures, and it works like crazy.

No, the trick is hitting the target.  The trick is putting the round where you want it to be.  And being skeptical of the ability of an untrained awkward boy to be so very effective with the weapon is what got me started on questioning the story.

If the weapon had been fully automatic, it might be understandable.  But having to pull the trigger each time, moving small targets with supposedly defensive adults nearby as he reloads twice?  That makes it harder to believe. 5 round average in each body makes it harder to believe too.
Five rounds on average from the ones that the CME personally saw. At least two per child is all I've heard being officially quoted. I don't think that's particularly difficult in a tightly enclosed space with a single exit, dual jungle-taped thirty-round cartridges and only a single adult.


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  No video of the perp entering the building, well...makes it hard to believe.  Preponderance of the evidence.
I believe you'll find that the entrance camera was wired directly to a screen in the school office and was used solely for real-time identification and, hence, does not record.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:44 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 31 March 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:



No, the trick is hitting the target.  The trick is putting the round where you want it to be.  And being skeptical of the ability of an untrained awkward boy to be so very effective with the weapon is what got me started on questioning the story.

I've heard so many people on these forums fight the "assault weapon ban" on the basis that hitting the target with an AR-15 is easy...

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If the weapon had been fully automatic, it might be understandable.  But having to pull the trigger each time, moving small targets with supposedly defensive adults nearby as he reloads twice?  That makes it harder to believe. 5 round average in each body makes it harder to believe too.  No video of the perp entering the building, well...makes it hard to believe.  Preponderance of the evidence.

Fight, Flight of Freeze --- Those are the responses humans have to stressful situations such as this. We can reasonably exclude "fight" since they were young children... so its between flight and freeze. When the only exist from the classroom is blocked and there is a gunman in the room, what exactly do you envision these kids doing? Running around the classroom like chickens with their heads cut off?

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:58 PM

Tiggs

Would you be so kind to reference the post in which you linked to those audio tapes?  Thanks much.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 02:17 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 01 April 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

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Would you be so kind to reference the post in which you linked to those audio tapes?  Thanks much.
The most recent time I believe was here


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:50 PM

View PostTiggs, on 24 March 2013 - 04:06 PM, said:

As previously discussed - It's standard procedure to change the radio frequency for large multi-agency operations.

The audio from the radios is posted online in multiple locations.

The same few minutes played again.  The glass was broken, but they're not sure why.  Yet pictures of the school don't show broken glass.

As for frequency changes Tiggs it is NOT standard procedure to change the frequency.  It is highly UNusual.  Many systems have several common frequencies, but not all, not by a long shot.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:46 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 01 April 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

The same few minutes played again.  The glass was broken, but they're not sure why.  Yet pictures of the school don't show broken glass.
Which pictures of the school?


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As for frequency changes Tiggs it is NOT standard procedure to change the frequency.
I continue to claim otherwise.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:10 AM

started looking into this the other day. the thing that stood out the most was gene rosen, his interview  where he talks about the kids being dropped off in front of his house. it looked completely fake and scripted, and nobody talks the way he did. it seemed like so ridiculouss