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Sumerian Beer May Have Been Alcohol-Free


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#16    BiffSplitkins

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 04:34 PM

View PostNikkiAidyn, on 22 January 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

Alcohol free beer is like a book without words.  :rofl:
Very true. It's also like driving a sports car with an automatic transmission or drinking decaffeinated coffee... WHY?

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 07:26 PM

PLEASE tell me it's a mistake.  Mouthy Mormons I can deal with but holier than thou Sumerians?
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:08 PM

I am mystified by the first sentence of the article... would alcohol free beer really be 'enjoyed'?


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:44 AM

View PostConrad Clough, on 10 April 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

I am mystified by the first sentence of the article... would alcohol free beer really be 'enjoyed'?
If fermentation of the sugars from the grains occurred then there would absolutely have been alcohol in it, unless the Sumerians boiled it after fermentation to remove the alcohol, which seems unlikely.  

HOWEVER if during the brewing process  the grains did not reach the proper temperatures, allowing the starches therein to convert to fermentable sugars, it is possible that the sumerians could have made drinks with no alcohol.

Also the amount of alcohol in the beer would have been dependent on several variables
1)the amount of fermentable sugars extracted during the brewing process

2) The kind of yeasts which were available.  some yeasts have very high tolerance for the byproduct of fermentation (alcohol) and some do not, so depending on the yeast strain a brewer is using, you may get more or less complete fermentation of sugars.  Most wild yeast strains have relatively low attenuation (ability to survive in alcohol)  and so therefore would have less fermentation abilities.  It is likely that the Sumerians used spontaneous fermentation with wild yeast strains.  

All in all chances are good that the Sumerians enjoyed a beer with much lower alcohol content, and higher sugar content, which would have made it more palatable.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:59 AM

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...Sumerian beer, may have been alcohol-free...

Homer Simpson does not approve of your so-called 'civilisation', Sumerians!

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:17 AM

Ouch! I'm an aussie and I like my beer, especially after a hard night working. Mind you, I never started drinking it for the taste either.

From my knowledge though Randy is right, water sources back in those days weren't all that safe, but that wasn't why sumerians brewed beer. It was done more as a religious thing. And yes, apparently it was alcoholic cos when the babylonians took over they offered guests preparations to ward off hangovers. You'll never guess what these preparations were usually dissolved in though... yep, that's right, beer. Lol


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:29 PM

View PostAnne-Marie, on 11 April 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:

Ouch! I'm an aussie and I like my beer, especially after a hard night working. Mind you, I never started drinking it for the taste either.

From my knowledge though Randy is right, water sources back in those days weren't all that safe, but that wasn't why sumerians brewed beer. It was done more as a religious thing. And yes, apparently it was alcoholic cos when the babylonians took over they offered guests preparations to ward off hangovers. You'll never guess what these preparations were usually dissolved in though... yep, that's right, beer. Lol
I am a beer lover and a homebrewer - I love beer for its taste.  Not your standard goat-piss swill like Budweiser, Miller, Coors, Heineken, insert name of worthless mass-produced light lager here.  I enjoy beers with unique flavors crafted by people who give a rip what it tastes like.  Unlike the huge multinationals who produce least common denominator carbonated beer-water out of the least possible amount of beer ingredients possible, bought at the cheapest imaginable price.  

The beer that these major companies make today would be unrecognizable next to the products they started making around the turn of the century.  Back then, beer was made from malted barley, hops, and water.  Now your typical Bud, miller, coors, is over 40% rice and corn with regards to the grain bill.  

Anyone who doesn't like beer because they had a bud/miller/coors and thought it was nasty should branch out.  Because bud/miller/coors are to beer what a hot dog is to meat.  There are simply thousands of options that taste far, far better.





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