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[Sakari]

Seeker79, on 05 October 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

By the way if anyone happens across this thread, myself and a few others trouble shoot with people that might want to take the journey themselves. I have a tutorial here, and you can post questions and experiences... It's not debate thread though.

http://www.unexplain...pic=219629&st=0

And I can vouche ( yes, the skeptic ass ) that I was starting on this. But, do to my messed up schedule and lack of sleep cycle, I could not continue.

I would like to again some time, and will.

[ILRNouda]

Sakari, on 04 May 2010 - 01:17 AM, said:

Yes , I am serious....How do I invite evil spirits to my home?.....Or nice ones , does not really matter......

I will do whatever anyone posts that is not to far out there....

Why?

Because I do not believe they exist....I have used the Ouiji board numerous times , begging the devil himself to say hello....Notta

Years and years ago , and on here , I asked in my other home for any spirit/demon , etc to come stay at my house , feel at home , show some kahunas.....Notta


So , really , I see a Topic on how to get rid of spirits , I want to know how to get them here in my home.....

" Please evil and non evil spirits a like , please come to my home in Oregon , we have 2 empty rooms , and I do not think I will get any takers"....

I doubt that will work either.....

Anyway....Show me the way , and I will roll digital video footage when they show themselves

Firstly. YES, it does matter GREATLY. Evil spirits can and if they wish, kill you. Do not be so stupid as to be so naive that such an action will not have severe consequences.

If you have used several methods of contacting them with no result, thank our great and all powerful lord and God himself that you have been left alone.

TRUST me, you don't want the alternative.

Lack of personal first hand proof of their existence is not excuse for wanting to contact them.

Curiosity killed the cat. You, and your loved ones will become the cat.


If I ever travel through Oregon, I can assure you, it will not be a social call!!

[Sakari]

i.l.r.nouda11, on 06 October 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

Firstly. YES, it does matter GREATLY. Evil spirits can and if they wish, kill you. Do not be so stupid as to be so naive that such an action will not have severe consequences.

If you have used several methods of contacting them with no result, thank our great and all powerful lord and God himself that you have been left alone.

TRUST me, you don't want the alternative.

Lack of personal first hand proof of their existence is not excuse for wanting to contact them.

Curiosity killed the cat. You, and your loved ones will become the cat.


If I ever travel through Oregon, I can assure you, it will not be a social call!!

ok

And besides blind faith, what do you have as evidence?

[booNyzarC]

It never ceases to amaze me when people don't bother reading even a small percentage of this thread and post dire warnings as if they are scrambling to save you from yourself...  

I picture these people clicking into the thread for the first time, reading the first few lines with their eyes widening in shock and terror after each word.  What goes through their minds?  Do they catch their breath?

Too funny.

[Sakari]

booNyzarC, on 06 October 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

It never ceases to amaze me when people don't bother reading even a small percentage of this thread and post dire warnings as if they are scrambling to save you from yourself...  

I picture these people clicking into the thread for the first time, reading the first few lines with their eyes widening in shock and terror after each word.  What goes through their minds?  Do they catch their breath?

Too funny.

Same here

[ThePhantomFlanFlinger]

I invited an evil spirit into my house just the other day....he didnt bloody leave until i finished him.....wont drink brandy again....

[ILRNouda]

Sakari, on 06 October 2012 - 02:35 AM, said:

ok

And besides blind faith, what do you have as evidence?

No, I never said blind. I was merely attempting to offer another, less hazardous route. If you seek an evil spirit simply to prove its existence, and see no difference between a spirit that has rebelled against God and one that still follows his will, then perhaps the first thing you should do is find out WHAT they are rather than how to bring one into your home when you have no idea what would happen. Inviting evil of any caliber into your home is pretty much the most stupid and dangerous thing you can do. It's hardly going to smile, sit down talk to you and leave without any forceful actions. Does this not make sense?

booNyzarC, on 06 October 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

It never ceases to amaze me when people don't bother reading even a small percentage of this thread and post dire warnings as if they are scrambling to save you from yourself...  

I picture these people clicking into the thread for the first time, reading the first few lines with their eyes widening in shock and terror after each word.  What goes through their minds?  Do they catch their breath?

Too funny.

No, actually I have read this thread. I would not just reply to any question based on a whimsical freak out. But the mere fact that there are 99 pages of discussion says it all, it proves how clueless people are that there is even a valid discussion to be had. Shock, no; a lot of eye rolling and brow raising, yes. The original question was from one single user, and my opinion on that question alone based on the events of my own life is that such a deed is a VERY bad idea. It's inconceivable that anyone would ever actually wish. To want to seek out an evil spirit without the knowledge that there is even a distinction between such beings proves how little is known of that realm. Innocence does not create an exception for accountability when such an inherent primitive subject is concerned. Perhaps what disturbs me the most is, that people don't care what evil really is and will still seek it out regardless. Their only argument is, they want proof. Would you ask for proof that electricity exists by sticking your finger in an electric socket to find out what happens? And complain at people for warning you against it? Its illogical to argue against the resolve and caution of someone who DOES know, if the other has no knowledge on the subject.

If the one asking does acknowledge the truth, but doesn't care.. well then, that certainly changes the rules. But quite frankly, I won't fuel that fire. If you wish to abuse the power, then it is not my problem and I won't get involved unless such an occasion presented itself wen I had to.

[Sakari]

i.l.r.nouda11, on 06 October 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

If you seek an evil spirit simply to prove its existence, and see no difference between a spirit that has rebelled against God and one that still follows his will, then perhaps the first thing you should do is find out WHAT they are rather than how to bring one into your home when you have no idea what would happen.

What makes you think I have not educated myself on different religions ideals of " demons ", and where the idea of a demon came from?

I know what happens....Nothing.


And again, I am not only asking how to invite " demons ", as the first thing posted says, " ghosts "....." Demons " sure seems to pop out at people doesnt it?

Edited by Sakari, 06 October 2012 - 06:06 PM.

[ILRNouda]

Sakari, on 06 October 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

What makes you think I have not educated myself on different religions ideals of " demons ", and where the idea of a demon came from?

I know what happens....Nothing.


And again, I am not only asking how to invite " demons ", as the first thing posted says, " ghosts "....." Demons " sure seems to pop out at people doesnt it?

All things are connected. If you DO know what they are, then WHY do you want them in your house? For what purpose, other than proof of their existence?

Edited by i.l.r.nouda11, 06 October 2012 - 06:58 PM.

[Sakari]

i.l.r.nouda11, on 06 October 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

Unless you're speaking of fallen angels, they are one in the same. Evil spirits are a breed of demon.

If you DO know what they are, then WHY do you want them in your house? For what purpose, other than proof of their existence?

You said you read the entire thread?

I am proving ( proved ) they do not exist......I know the stories behind them, and the history. I also know they are not real on a physical plane at all. They are in your head. Read seeker's post a few back.    http://www.unexplain...55#entry4489315


I am not explaining it again...It is all there, on the first page, and through out.

Edited by Sakari, 06 October 2012 - 06:58 PM.

[ILRNouda]

All you proved was that it is possible to convince yourself of something if enough seemingly logical evidence is given in support of your belief. The world is full of mysteries and theories which can not be explained.

You read the stories, sounds to me like you never believed them. Perhaps on this occasion, is it good that nothing has come of it..

According to the human population in general, the supernatural is illogical. That is all I will say on the matter.

[Sakari]

i.l.r.nouda11, on 06 October 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

All you proved was that it is possible to convince yourself of something if enough seemingly logical evidence is given in support of your belief. The world is full of mysteries and theories which can not be explained.

You read the stories, sounds to me like you never believed them. Perhaps on this occasion, is it good that nothing has come of it..

According to the human population in general, the supernatural is illogical. That is all I will say on the matter.

Did you read seekers post?

Basically, you are also saying for them to exist " you have to believe in them ".

We agree on this 100%, and that has been my answer this entire time.

And it is not my " belief ", I know they do not exist, I do not " believe " they do not exist.

For those that " believe " they exist, feel free, just do not say " I know they exist " and warn people how they will terrorize them. Or use them as a answer to a noise in a house, a cancerous tumor, or a psychological disorder, etc.

Nothing wrong with " believing " as long as the " belief " is not pushed onto people as fact.

Edited by Sakari, 06 October 2012 - 07:37 PM.

[Simbi Laveau]

Sakari, on 05 October 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

And I can vouche ( yes, the skeptic ass ) that I was starting on this. But, do to my messed up schedule and lack of sleep cycle, I could not continue.

I would like to again some time, and will.

Just an observation ,but you sssaaayyyy,you want to do this,but there's always some reason you why you cannot.
Schedule,where its posted ,blah blah blah ....... .

ahermm......

*whistling*

Just sayin .....

[Sakari]

Simbi Laveau, on 06 October 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

Just an observation ,but you sssaaayyyy,you want to do this,but there's always some reason you why you cannot.
Schedule,where its posted ,blah blah blah ....... .

ahermm......

*whistling*

Just sayin .....

Can you give me details?....Where do I say schedule?...That is a entire different topic...Astral Projection.

Other then ( someone ) only doing something in a PM, that I explained a million times why that was bad, and said before it was posted to a PM, I will not do anything that is not posted for everyone to see, can you show me one thing here I did not try for any reason, especially the ones you gave?

I don't mind discussions, and feedback, but I do not like fabricated un-truths.  

Link me to anything you have.  


Edit to add : there was one, that stated flat out that " you must believe in God ", and by God, meaning the Christian God. For that one, I could not honestly do it, because I do not believe in one certain religions God....Other then that, good luck....

Just sayin '





Edit 2 :  For some that seem so defensive, and seem to get upset over this, why don't you make it easy, and show verified evidence that Demons and Ghosts exist. After all, that is why I started this topic, I am tired of all the claims and stories, and mainly the WARNINGS to people. Not to mention the " how to get rid of Demons and Ghosts ".

Just show some verifiable real evidence, it should be easy, considering some are so sure these things exist, and I have been playing with fire?

Edited by Sakari, 06 October 2012 - 11:14 PM.

[Kazahel]

Sakari, on 06 October 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:

Edit to add : there was one, that stated flat out that " you must believe in God ", and by God, meaning the Christian God. For that one, I could not honestly do it, because I do not believe in one certain religions God....Other then that, good luck....

Just sayin '

Where is that post, I've had a quick look but I cant find it. Can you link it for me because I'm curious.