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#1    Etu Malku

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:55 PM

Lucifer is the Principle of Compassion for Life and Creation, the Light born in the Womb of Darkness, defiance of corrupt authority and the Current of Spiritual Evolution. Lucifer is that core level of the Cosmos. The Principle of Self development. The model of individuality, individuation, and independence. Lucifer is symbolized from culture to culture and is defined by that culture.

Lucifer is a Collective Name for Spiritual Freedom.

Lucifer is not an Adversary as the word Satan (ha-satan) describes, Lucifer is the 'Bringer of Light' in other words Lux Lucis and is gnosis, truth and divine knowledge. Lucifer brought us the Truth and Freedom from the Will of another, and showed us the way to either be One with God / Nature / Objective Universe or to become a god ourselves. Through Lucifer's spirit humanity first climbed down from the trees and The Luciferian Principle has represented the flow of progress ever since.

Lucifer is older than and removed from the Judeo-Christian paradigms. Lucifer is mentioned by Roman poet Virgil as far back as 29 BCE, and in Publius Ovidius Naso's  "Metamorphoses", which was written in 8 C.E (Roman).

In Greek mythology, Hesperus, the Evening Star is the son of the dawn goddess Eos (Roman equivalent: Aurora) and brother of Eosphorus the Morning Star (Eosphoros "dawn-bearer"; also Phosphorus, Lucifer "light-bearer").

In contemporary literature the mentioning of Lucifer immediately brings to mind the concept of
the Christian Devil. This is the result from a misinterpretation of Isaiah 14:12, which refers to
Nebuchadnezzar the King of Babylon.


This is the foundation of Luciferianism. Questions?

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:37 PM

Are you a Mason?


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:41 PM

View PostReann, on 13 June 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

Are you a Mason?
Did you notice my signature at the bottom that read "Magus III° Ordo Luciferi"?
Have you noticed that I am posting here about Luciferianism?
What on earth makes you think I am a Freemason?

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:53 PM

I asked that only because the sentence where you stated this "Lucifer is a Collective Name for Spiritual Freedom." just reminded of the founding fathers, was all. Again I mean no disrespect.
You have to take into consideration that there has been things hidden about "Lucifer" and so it's said that the founding fathers and every Freemason do recognize this " Lucifer" doctrine but have secretly kept it to themselves.
I was only getting that out of the way, was all.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:56 PM

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What do you actually mean in that , Lucifer brought to us " the Truth and Freedom from the Will of another" ... what do you by the will of another ? I'm not understanding exactly what it means by the will of another , can you please help me understand that?


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:00 PM

...almost seems to me , that , by the actions we observe in one another ? is that it ? Is it from within our own selves ? Is that all "Lucifer" really means in a sense?Like  our own consciousness?  I hope i make sense here to you.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:12 PM

Apart from knowing that Lucifer was/is the 'Light-bringer' and the Morning Star, I haven't come across the rest of the information in the OP. A nice read for me.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:12 PM

I am not a fan of "Lucifer", as his "spiritual freedom" is complete freedom from the "Most High"

A very dangerous position to be in, I would imagine.

Of course, I have no direct knowledge, but I don't think I would want to tick-off the Creator.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:16 PM

View PostReann, on 13 June 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

I asked that only because the sentence where you stated this "Lucifer is a Collective Name for Spiritual Freedom." just reminded of the founding fathers, was all. Again I mean no disrespect.
You have to take into consideration that there has been things hidden about "Lucifer" and so it's said that the founding fathers and every Freemason do recognize this " Lucifer" doctrine but have secretly kept it to themselves.
I was only getting that out of the way, was all.
If it was secretly kept by them, how would you know about it? How would anyone?
No, the Freemasons have been incorrectly associated with Lucifer through the writings of Albert Pike and the Leo Taxil Hoax


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Etu Malku
What do you actually mean in that , Lucifer brought to us " the Truth and Freedom from the Will of another" ... what do you by the will of another ? I'm not understanding exactly what it means by the will of another , can you please help me understand that?
Luciferianism is about One's own Will, not the Will of another. Free Will is not about choices it is about being free from the Will of another.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:17 PM

View Postpallidin, on 13 June 2013 - 05:12 PM, said:

I am not a fan of "Lucifer", as his "spiritual freedom" is complete freedom from the "Most High"

A very dangerous position to be in, I would imagine.

Of course, I have no direct knowledge, but I don't think I would want to tick-off the Creator.
We don't accept that there is a Creator . . . so there's no one to tick-off :gun:

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:34 PM

View PostEtu Malku, on 13 June 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

If it was secretly kept by them, how would you know about it? How would anyone?
No, the Freemasons have been incorrectly associated with Lucifer through the writings of Albert Pike and the Leo Taxil Hoax


Luciferianism is about One's own Will, not the Will of another. Free Will is not about choices it is about being free from the Will of another.
Where exactly did these writings come from ? got any names of  authors?
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edit to ask and be clear that , I am asking you who is , or are , the author, or authors  of the religion of Lucifer? from the book that you have ...Who constructed it? and when was it published?

Edited by Reann, 13 June 2013 - 05:36 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:36 PM

View PostReann, on 13 June 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

Where exactly did these writings come from ? got any names of  authors?
Which writings?

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:42 PM

View PostEtu Malku, on 13 June 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

We don't accept that there is a Creator . . . so there's no one to tick-off :gun:
that's your own indoctrinated misbeliefs that  you choose to believe. Not everyone that believes in God believes in fear of God.  So you don't believe in a creator , but , you do believe that you will become a god? and how do you suppose you will become a god? what is this god you wish to become ? what will you be able to achieve when you reach this status ? how do you know for certain that you will become a god? do you  believe that the elite pharaohs became gods too?  where little folks permitted to become gods as well as them? or not ? where's the humanity in that  thought , right?.

View PostEtu Malku, on 13 June 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

Which writings?
I elaborated myself there for you when i edited it . it's o.k i can find out on my own. Unless you care to go look for me?


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:43 PM

View PostEtu Malku, on 13 June 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

We don't accept that there is a Creator . . . so there's no one to tick-off :gun:

OK. I respect your having an opinion, but I disagree.

If "Lucifer" is a spiritual being, than there is a dimensional spiritual reality. Agreed?

As such I can only presume that their is some type of "heirarchy" if you will.

Therefore, there is a "Most HIgh", whomever that might be. I choose to call it the "Creator"

Lucifer is last on my list for that.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:53 PM

View PostReann, on 13 June 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

that's your own indoctrinated misbeliefs that  you choose to believe.
They're not 'misbeliefs' they are simply beliefs and they are free from indoctrination unlike most religions.

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Not everyone that believes in God believes in fear of God.  So you don't believe in a creator , but , you do believe that you will become a god? and how do you suppose you will become a god?
This would pertain to what you think a god is and isn't. To us a god is an archetype. We become a god because we no longer accept the paradigm of another and we become the ruler of our own paradigm. Apotheosis, autotheism are two terms that loosely apply to Luciferianism. The higher Self is the only god any of us will ever know.

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what is this god you wish to become ?
That is personal

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what will you be able to achieve when you reach this status ?
Absolution into the Monad/singularity of Highest Self and the obliteration of the delusion of dualism.

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how do you know for certain that you will become a god?
I don't . . . hence the term "belief"

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do you  believe that the elite pharaohs became gods too?  where little folks permitted to become gods as well as them? or not ? where's the humanity in that  thought , right?.
I believe the Pharaohs and the Egyptian religion believed they did, but I don't believe they did. You can't perform a ceremony and become a god. Besides, anthropomorphism is what the Egyptian religion taught which is is not Luciferianism. Although, Khepera and Thoth would have been considered both Lucifers in a metaphorical way.

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