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[the L]

This is truely ineteresting mystery. I guess this will be my first topic which I will suscribe to follow.

[Abramelin]

I have been thinking of copying/scanning and posting the whole translation, but I have this nagging feeling someone already posted the translation online.

[Erudite Celt]

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I personally think that the two Skellig Islands are the most likly candidates for Hy-Brasil.

[Abramelin]

Erudite Celt, on 26 May 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

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I personally think that the two Skellig Islands are the most likly candidates for Hy-Brasil.

I never heard of those, but I checked a map:



They are less than peanuts lol.

But ok, it's like a fisher's tale: "I cought a fish THIS big"....

[Erudite Celt]

Hi AB, it's very true. The Irish have a gift for exaggeration. The Skellig's have a very long and ancient history. The name Brasil I believe comes from a semi-historical figure known as Bres / Breas who had an association with the islands in legend. It is not difficult to see how  Bres or Breas became courrupted to Bresil or Brasil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bres

[Abramelin]

Erudite Celt, on 27 May 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

Hi AB, it's very true. The Irish have a gift for exaggeration. The Skellig's have a very long and ancient history. The name Brasil I believe comes from a semi-historical figure known as Bres / Breas who had an association with the islands in legend. It is not difficult to see how  Bres or Breas became courrupted to Bresil or Brasil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bres

But is it known these tiny islands submerged regularly?

Because that is the story of Hy Brasil.

[Erudite Celt]

Abramelin, on 27 May 2012 - 02:09 AM, said:

But is it known these tiny islands submerged regularly?

Because that is the story of Hy Brasil.

The Islands are frequently covered in thick impenetrable Gulf-stream mists that they " disappear " into . There are also very strong currents in that area that will carry you miles of-course. They are also very difficult to land on.

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[Abramelin]

Erudite Celt, on 27 May 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

The Islands are frequently covered in thick impenetrable Gulf-stream mists that they " disappear " into . There are also very strong currents in that area that will carry you miles of-course. They are also very difficult to land on.

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Looks like 'mystery solved' to me.

[Erudite Celt]

Abramelin, on 27 May 2012 - 02:48 AM, said:

Looks like 'mystery solved' to me.

Thanks AB.

[the L]

Erudite Celt, on 26 May 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

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I personally think that the two Skellig Islands are the most likly candidates for Hy-Brasil.

Isnt they too small? Look at proportions on some maps and distance.
I think its double messures. Piri Reis map is badly drawn map for sketpiks. Person is not taken seriously when connected one thing from Piri Reis map to actual real thing because its just badly drawn. Its possibility that Brasil is Skelling but I also fail to see how Bres is connected with any island.

Edited by the L, 27 May 2012 - 08:26 AM.

[Abramelin]

the L, on 27 May 2012 - 08:15 AM, said:

Isnt they too small? Look at proportions on some maps and distance.
I think its double messures. Piri Reis map is badly drawn map for sketpiks. Person is not taken seriously when connected one thing from Piri Reis map to actual real thing because its just badly drawn. Its possibility that Brasil is Skelling but I also fail to see how Bres is connected with any island.

The etymology of the names Brasil and Hy-Brasil are unknown, but in Irish tradition it is thought to come from the Irish Uí Breasail (meaning "descendants (i.e., clan) of Breasal"), one of the ancient clans of northeastern Ireland. cf. Old Irish: Í: island; bres: beauty, worth; great, mighty.[2]

http://en.wikipedia....mythical_island)

Uí Bresail - northern Armagh. The O'Garvey (O Gairbhith) sept, from the same stock as O'Hanlon, held sway in Armagh on the southern shore of Lough Neagh (Oneilland East) before being displaced by the MacCann's, lords of Clanbrassil. The Annals for 1155 cite Amhlaibh Mac Canna as 'pillar of chivalry and vigour of Cinel Eoghain." Other noted chiefs included O'Keelaghan (O Ceileachain) of Uí Breasil Airthir. O'Dugan (Poems) cites the sept of O'Gairbhith fierce chiefs of Ui-Breasial of Macha, as well as the sept of Mag Duilechain over Clann Breasial. O'Dugan goes on to note the sept of Ui Lorcain over the high eastern Ui-Breasail, and also the septs of the O'Longains, O'Duibheamhnas, and O'Conchobhairs all of the western Ui-Breasail.

Note: There is also a Clan Bresail, alias Muinter Domnalláin, cited between Ballinasloe and Loughrea in Ui Maine (Connacht).

http://www.rootsweb..../colla.htm#brea

[the L]

So Erudite realy solved puzzle? Bravisimo.
Thanks Abramelin.

[Beno balboa]

If you have watched that ancient alien doc like me it sounded intresting, but then i checked the co-ordnates +52deg N 09 42.32 +13deg W 13 12.69 you will find the location is west germany near polish border!?!?

Edited by Beno balboa, 09 July 2012 - 02:04 AM.

[Abramelin]

Beno balboa, on 09 July 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

If you have watched that ancient alien doc like me it sounded intresting, but then i checked the co-ordnates +52deg N 09 42.32 +13deg W 13 12.69 you will find the location is west germany near polish border!?!?

I guess you made a mistake:  it's WESTERN longitude, not eastern.

[Myles]

MacMathghamha, on 26 May 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

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I personally think that the two Skellig Islands are the most likly candidates for Hy-Brasil.

I'm going to agree with you.