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#1246    Abramelin

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:28 AM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 10 December 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

THa Crack part is very close to the point Im sure ! Some Serious Drug testing may need to be carried out in here ! :blink:

The Incas chewed on coca leaves (and the Peruvians still do), and they used ayahuasca which they got from Amazonian jungle tribes with whom they traded.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:30 AM

View Postthe L, on 08 December 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

When they notice Gods from temple they said that they have shining eyes, square heads, indistinct words, and that from their mouth fire comes so they thought that they must belong to volcano family Gods.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:40 AM

L's actually making our point for us - what could be aliens, or gods are actually more advanced men.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:40 AM

View Postthe L, on 08 December 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

In past came ETs who were EXTRA high tech. (Knowing little about our universe you must know that they must be realy extra advanced)
One who came to people must been their best man. Look at our astronauts. Are they local drunk?
Why would ET who was trained loose some artifact? In fact how do you know that he having any? Maybe all happened from their ship.

And extra high tech was brought to earth for what reason? To stack rocks, and give some of them a shiny finish? They thought we might need a hand with our rock stacking?

How do you not Loose something? As far as I know one does not loose something on purpose. In one breath you lot say they would not drop a wrapper, yet in the next you will tell us that ET ships crash here all the time. Which is it?

View Postthe L, on 08 December 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Or who said that they need ship at all. Maybe they can sent here trough dimension we didnt aware of.

And who is to say that the people who saw these things were not on a hallucinatory trip and imagined the entier thing, or were spurred on by other religious upstarts? Where does the speculation line in the sand stop? For every answer there is a rebuttal, so what is the point? If you have something bring it to the table. If you want maybe's and wannabes we can sit here till the end of time.

View Postthe L, on 08 December 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Also do you think that ants in Africa are aware of satelite above their heads? Or last year scientists who studied them?

What the heck do ants have to do with anything? Do we help them build monuments? Are the intelligent? What happened when Columbus hit the Americas, or when Cook got to Australia, New Zealand and Hawaii? Did he treat the svages like ants?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:42 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 10 December 2012 - 03:40 AM, said:

L's actually making our point for us - what could be aliens, or gods are actually more advanced men.

I was agreeing with L, the description is of a man smoking with sunnies on. First thing that came to my head when I read the above.

Or..... more rhetoric that has been over analysed...... ;)

Edited by psyche101, 10 December 2012 - 03:42 AM.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:04 AM

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

I too have respect for the ancient indiginous people.  That's why I believe what they say:

1) They denied building the megalithic structures.


Nope, been proven to you otherwise, oniomacer and imaginarynumber1 have covered this.

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

2) A previous culture existed before they did.

Please do extrapolate.

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

That's what respect means to me.

Not see you show a lot of that in my direction at any point.

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

Please don't look to me make some kind of 'reformation'.  It's not going to happen.  The AA hypothesis is only becoming more not less popular; more books and more documentaries than ever are now being made.

And there we have it. No matter what proof, not matter how thorough the study, no matter the level of peer review. It's just not exciting enough for you is it.

The AA hypothesis is not becoming more popular, please prove that statement. Reaching mainstream does not equate to more popular. It means the show producers are running out of ideas and have to bow to what brings in ratings as opposed to what is worthy.

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

I too read Von D decades ago.  Since then he has been well supported by scores of like minded scientific people.  I have been on this forum for over 3 years and I have never moved one inch from my original convictions and nor will I do so.

Who? David Icke? Roger Lier?

This is what the community has to say, from the late great Carl Sagan:





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I also hope for the continuing popularity of books like Chariots of the Gods? in high school and college logic courses, as object lessons in sloppy thinking. I know of no recent books so riddled with logical and factual errors as the works of von Däniken.

—Carl Sagan, Foreword to The Space Gods Revealed


Is that the support you are speaking of?



Neither you nor Daniken could ever hope to be so much as a pimple on Sagan's backside.


View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

In my previous role I was an engineer and I did this for 23 years.  I know what it takes to quarry, move, finish and position hundred tonne blocks and I know it is beyond the capability of people just emergent from the stone age.

:w00t: Pfffttttttt LOL >< YEAH RIGHT!!

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As if Zoser.

Someone who does not know what a holesaw is, a diamond bit core drill, LOL is an engineer, in masonry!???????????

And who struggles with mathematical triangulation?

Pull the other leg Zoser, it plays a musical tune.

Good God Man, you have no shame at all do you!!!

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

It's a very simple adding up process.  

From someone who can actually do maths, yes. That is how you keep arriving at the wrong answer. How can you lower yourself to sink to the level of academia? Do you not despise modern knowledge? You know, the stuff you use to log onto this forum with? That's math Zoser.


View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

So respect?  Yes I have it.  Let the Inca tell you what happened not the school historians.

And you have spoken to the Inca peoples have you? No, you have not even given them the benefit of the doubt yourself. That would the definition of a hypocrite would it not Zoser? You are using what the AA people tell you that some Inca told them. But you seem to find that a justified source, don't you. I am afraid you stand alone there.

Respect? Quite frankly, I am yet to see you demonstrate meaning of the word.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:11 AM

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

How many archaeologists have been imprisoned?  What were they imprisoned for?  Don't forget that Von D is now only one of scores of people saying the same thing.  Very serious full time researchers.  Brien Foerster being another good example.

One thing, Daniken is very serious about taking people for a rid so he can live the high life:




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At the age of 19, von Däniken was given a four-month suspended sentence for theft. [7] Von Däniken withdrew from school, and became apprenticed to a Swiss hotelier.[8] After moving to Egypt, he was convicted for fraud and embezzlement.[7]


In November 1968 von Däniken was arrested for fraud, after falsifying hotel records and credit references in order to take out loans[9] for $130,000 over a period of twelve years. He used the money for foreign travel to research his book.[7] Two years later,[9] von Däniken was convicted for "repeated and sustained" embezzlement, fraud and forgery, with the court ruling that the writer had been living a "playboy" lifestyle.[5] Von Däniken entered a plea for nullity on the grounds that his intentions were not malicious and the credit institutions were at fault for failing to adequately research his references.[9][5][7] Von Däniken was sentenced on 13 February 1970 to three and a half years imprisonment and fined 3,000 francs.[9][11] He served one year of this sentence before being released.[7][12]

His first book, Chariots of the Gods?, had been published by the time of his trial, and its sales allowed him to repay his debts and leave the hotel business. Von Däniken wrote his second book, Gods from Outer Space, while in prison.[7][5]





Feel free to follow the links to confirm any claims made.

Von Däniken put forward photographs of ancient stones in Peru, with carvings of men using telescopes, detailed world maps, and advanced medical operations, all beyond the knowledge of ancient Peruvians. But the PBS television series Nova determined that the stones were modern, and located the potter who made them. This potter makes stones daily and sells them to tourists.


He knows exactly what he is doing.

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Show me his megaliths walls.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:18 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 10 December 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

Nope, been proven to you otherwise, oniomacer and imaginarynumber1 have covered this.

Not to mention on a silver platter.

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And there we have it. No matter what proof, not matter how thorough the study, no matter the level of peer review. It's just not exciting enough for you is it.

I think that is very apparent in all its sad glory.

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The AA hypothesis is not becoming more popular, please prove that statement. Reaching mainstream does not equate to more popular. It means the show producers are running out of ideas and have to bow to what brings in ratings as opposed to what is worthy.

Indeed. The notion is outright absurd.

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Who? David Icke? Roger Lier?

I can think of no others, at least none outside of their category.

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This is what the community has to say, from the late great Carl Sagan:

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So very true.

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Edited by badeskov, 10 December 2012 - 04:18 AM.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:35 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 09 December 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

Look, Zoser, when you support the "Aliens did it" theory, you at least should show us why you think it must have been aliens.

Thing is, I think he knows this exactly, I also think he knows that his arguments are completely baseless. Can someone have a hole explained to them a dozen times and still be asking the same question? Can someone promote Daniken when the truth has been placed before them? How can one keep arguing a point without an argument?
One has to consider that the questions are not on the level. I smell an alternate agenda.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:40 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 09 December 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:



You ever heard of "Occam's Razor"? Look for the most probable answer, not for the most far-out answer.





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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:47 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 10 December 2012 - 04:18 AM, said:

Not to mention on a silver platter.

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I think that is very apparent in all its sad glory.



Indeed. The notion is outright absurd.



I can think of no others, at least none outside of their category.



So very true.

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I honestly do not think we have someone here who wants discussion. I think we have someone who just gets of on rocking the boat. Sky would discuss, Quillius will discuss, this is not discussion.

Anyway how have you been Bade! Nice to have the break just around the corner :D

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:51 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 10 December 2012 - 04:47 AM, said:

I honestly do not think we have someone here who wants discussion. I think we have someone who just gets of on rocking the boat. Sky would discuss, Quillius will discuss, this is not discussion.

No doubts. Sky would argue his case and present counter arguments -this is just a parade of willful ignorance.

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Anyway how have you been Bade! Nice to have the break just around the corner :D

I have been good, mate, albeit incredibly busy - I have not had a weekend off for I don't know how long ;) But it is good and paying off....how have you been?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:04 AM

View Postthe L, on 09 December 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Dont know where are you from but in Europe there are many young people without job. Doing nothing. Bored.
Then I look to Africa. Then todays south america. Then I look to all countries except BRIC and NEXT 11. We are on different planets or you are among lucky people to live in those 15 states.

Why would that be different? You people would have been bored then too, I employ apprentices that do brilliant work. And I have at least a dozen every week asking for an apprenticeship. All people are not bored, all people are not industrious, but those who are industrious tend to move up the ranks.

View Postthe L, on 09 December 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Second they live shorter then we. They must work hard for food same as we are today. They didnt have "time" as you and others usualy tried to link to them.
Thats simply not a true.

Nobody said they had time on their hands. That was the Industry. On a typical job-site between all trades we tend to see 800 to 1500 people. Imagine if all the tradedesmen in just one state were working on one sigle job. How much labour would you have? More than you would need. Nobody stuck in factories making appliances in those days were there? No R & D, no public services, just what could be sold. So pretty much everyone was labelled either a tradesman or a chef. It is now realised that workers at these ancient sites were well looked after. Not slaves.

View Postthe L, on 09 December 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Third you said they have men power. Well I didnt know that peak of population growth was hidden in history.

Why does it have to be when this has to have been the most popular profession? Labourer that is? Still paid quite well today.

View Postthe L, on 09 December 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Fourth. Simple tools. Try simple test. Use copper axe and try cut tree. After second (or first hit) your axe would be broken. Now what do you think that wood is harder then stone?

Yet we cut Diamonds with a Bronze blade still today. Is that impossible? Are Jewellers aliens?

I think technique is what yo are missing here. Back to tradesmen.

View Postthe L, on 09 December 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Edit: This is adressed too to your acolytes who nods on every post you wrote.

Ahh jeez. I had hoped for more than such a sad little snipe.

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Edited by psyche101, 10 December 2012 - 05:23 AM.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:08 AM

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

No sane man can believe that a twenty-ton stone was pecked here and there, dropped into position, hoisted out and trued and cut over and over again, until a perfect fit was obtained.


So.........

Does this make Ed Leedskin insane? He actually did it, with a 9 tonne gate so that make him off his rocker... right?

Hey look, a 30 Tonne stone


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:21 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 10 December 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

No doubts. Sky would argue his case and present counter arguments -this is just a parade of willful ignorance.

Next to this sort of half baked nonsense, Sky looks like a President. :lol: These guys do pale so by comparison.

View Postbadeskov, on 10 December 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

I have been good, mate, albeit incredibly busy - I have not had a weekend off for I don't know how long ;) But it is good and paying off....how have you been?

Cheers,
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Good to hear, I have had a really busy few months as well, some paying off, some not, but that's the game I guess. Only this week and then a good break, I am quite looking forward to a good Christmas with the family. I did sneak out on a charter for some fishing last weekend, did very well too. Best wishes to yourself and hope your Christmas is nothing short of magnificent :D

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