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#1    Perfection

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:01 PM

The notion that all things are simply the result of elements from a Big Bang means that 'we too, in every aspect, are simply elements & everything we do is an elemental reaction with no random dimensions & therefore perfectly arranged; This means that what we view as "Life" is not life at all. It cannot be life if it is just elements. Correct me if i'm wrong


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:45 PM

the old adage that 'the sum of the whole is greater than its parts' would seem to apply.....

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:47 PM

Well take a look at life and you'll see very few things are 'perfectly arranged'. But why does it matter, just do what you have to, and do what you want to. It is only general assumption, but it seems your outlook is more on the pessimistic side...

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:00 PM

View Postshrooma, on 15 June 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

the old adage that 'the sum of the whole is greater than its parts' would seem to apply.....
Indeed. The reductionist has a very hard time recognizing transcendence.

You cannot know Somone while looking through a microscope at a bacteria in their Colon.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:08 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 15 June 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:



You cannot know Somone while looking through a microscope at a bacteria in their Colon.
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i'd hope that if someone had stuck a microscope up your jacksie Seeker, you'd know them VERY well!!
(at least well enough to forgive them their curiosity....)
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:27 PM

We are the result of  massive super Novas. We are star stuff. Personally I think it is pretty cool.   How do you know the Big Bang wasn't the Big Birth and everything is alive.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:46 PM

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How do you know the Big Bang wasn't the Big Birth and everything is alive.

Brilliant! We'll call her "The Big Momma" instead of the "Big Bang"


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:59 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 15 June 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

How do you know the Big Bang wasn't the Big Birth and everything is alive.
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we, are the universe's way of thinking about the universe.
if the universe were any different, even slightly, we wouldn't exist, and neither would it. the universe HAS to be the way it is for BOTH of us to exist.
we know it, and because we're the universe's way of thinking about the universe, IT knows it too!
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 11:11 PM

As Above, So Below, Shrooma.   And a whole bunch of fun between.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 11:19 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 15 June 2013 - 11:11 PM, said:

As Above, So Below, Shrooma.   And a whole bunch of fun between.
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fun, it's what seperates us from the

catholics.
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 11:34 PM

That be true.  :lol:

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 12:31 AM

View PostPerfection, on 15 June 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:

The notion that all things are simply the result of elements from a Big Bang means that 'we too, in every aspect, are simply elements & everything we do is an elemental reaction with no random dimensions & therefore perfectly arranged; This means that what we view as "Life" is not life at all. It cannot be life if it is just elements. Correct me if i'm wrong

Ok then, you are wrong.. Elements come together and life is born ..

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 01:56 AM

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  Elements come together and life is born

Yes & so 'life is just a natural reaction of elements & nothing more. Our awareness & consciousness is simply part of the reaction & will end with death.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 02:12 AM

View PostPerfection, on 16 June 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

Yes & so 'life is just a natural reaction of elements & nothing more. Our awareness & consciousness is simply part of the reaction & will end with death.

And that's stating the obvious  lol :D

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 02:29 AM

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And that's stating the obvious

I know, & what a narrow theory it is, 'considering the infinite number of spiritual type things humanity experiences that must subsequently be labelled as tricks of the elements & their reactions.





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