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#2146    skyeagle409

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:36 AM

View PostStundie, on 18 May 2013 - 12:34 AM, said:

Firefighters were not at GZ to find bomb evidence. :no:

Another pointless post..l

Where is the evidence of explosives at ground zero? Just a simple question to ask. If you can't produce such evidence, then it is all very simple; you have no case.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:39 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 18 May 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Where is the evidence of explosives at ground zero? Just a simple question to ask. If you can't produce such evidence, then it is all very simple; you have no case.
You keep asking for it and you have said that you it would take an eternity, so why are you continually asking? lol

If you were that confident there was no evidence, you wouldn't be posting here..lol

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:41 AM

View PostStundie, on 18 May 2013 - 12:39 AM, said:

You keep asking for it and you have said that you it would take an eternity, so why are you continually asking?

In other words, you cannot produce evidence of explosives at ground zero, which makes it all very simple; explosives were not responsible for the collapse of WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:43 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 18 May 2013 - 12:41 AM, said:

In other words, you cannot produce evidence of explosives at ground zero, which makes it all very simple; explosives were not responsible for the collapse of WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.
I can produce evidence, there is plenty of it, but how can I produce evidence to you, when you do not understand what constitute as evidence and suffer from denial, ignorance and pure delusions...lol

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:57 AM

View PostStundie, on 18 May 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

I can produce evidence, there is plenty of it, but how can I produce evidence to you, when you do not understand what constitute as evidence and suffer from denial, ignorance and pure delusions...lol

Where is that evidence?

Considering that no bomb explosions were seen on video, nor heard on audio, nor detected on seismic monitors and no evidence of explosives was ever found at ground zero, then it is apparent that no such exvidence exist especially in light of the fact that investigations have concluded that fire, not explosives, was responsible for the collapse of the WTC buildings.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:33 AM

I love the  " I can provide the evidence" Stundie will indeed be digging a deep hole to crawl out of ! :tu:

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 04:46 AM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 18 May 2013 - 03:33 AM, said:

I love the  " I can provide the evidence" Stundie will indeed be digging a deep hole to crawl out of ! :tu:

Perhaps he is digging to look for evidence, but he can dig his way all the way to China  and not find it because investigations have concluded that fire was responsible for the collapse of the WTC buildings. Perhaps, he should  ask Steven Jones why he ignored the lack of Barium Nitrate at ground zero. Just goes to show that Steven Jones has been a pint short of a six pack in regards to telling the truth.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 09:06 AM

View PostStundie, on 17 May 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

Its nothing to do with my lack of understanding of physics... :rolleyes:...It is to with your explanation which doesn't make any sense. You said..."The forces are different because the debris layer has mass, which means gravity acts downwards on it."

So if the forces are different? What is this force that makes this difference? We know that debris has mass which gravity is going to act down on it, as it does most things. Debris hits the floor below but there is still 92 floors to penetration and if the upper block is crushing down on top of that debris and lower block, the lower part of that upper block will soon become debris too. Therefore the mass of the 17 floors of upper block will be reduced before 93 floors of the lower block which uses progressively thicker steel and therefore stronger.
You could tell us about these forces?? lol
I've already told you several times, but here goes again:You say that the forces on the upper and lower blocks should be the same.  However, once a debris layer forms, the upper and  lower blocks are no longer in direct contact.  In this situation, the force on the upper block is the same as the force on the top of the debris layer.  The force on the lower block is the same as the force on the bottom of the debris layer.  The two forces on the blocks are can only be the same if there is no net force on the debris layer, ie if the debris layer is in free fall.  However, the lower block is providing resistance so the debris layer is  not in free fall.  Therefore the force on the lower block is greater than the force on the upper block, by the amount of force required to prevent the debris layer falling freely.  So by saying that the forces are equal, you are ignoring the debris layer.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:58 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 18 May 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Where is the evidence of explosives at ground zero? Just a simple question to ask. If you can't produce such evidence, then it is all very simple; you have no case.

The evidence is everywhere Sky.  The problem is yours--YOU are unable to perceive the evidence.

Others can.  Others described explosions.  Others described molten metals.  Others analyzed the dust that permeated lower Manhattan and found the chemical byproducts of thermite reaction.  Heavy structural steel was propelled horizontally hundreds of feet.

All that happened, all that evidence exists, but you yourself are unable to perceive it, in the same way a person who is color blind is unable to perceive certain colors.


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Posted 18 May 2013 - 06:30 PM

You know something? I dont care if Babe Ruth dosnt understand the physics of the facts anymore,Its very clear that He and many others of the mind set   I.E. Conspiracies people will never Look at the Facts of this event.
THe Towers came down 12 years ago and the Investigators have reached there point ,and its been reviewed -re-reviewed many times,Enough said. WHat Happened  IS just as its been reported.
I will let you guys waist your time making up your fanatsy`s

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:32 AM

I'll not be waisting my time Don! :tu:


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:03 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 18 May 2013 - 12:58 PM, said:

The evidence is everywhere Sky.

After more than 11 years, the evidence has not been good enough to be taken seriously by the demolition industry, civil engineers and architects. So you say it is everywhere, then post it here for all to see and send that so-called evidence to the major news agencies and see if they will take that so-called evidence seriously.

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YOU are unable to perceive the evidence.

From firsthand experience,  I knew as a fact that much of what 911 truthers have posted was false  at best.

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Others described explosions.

And later, atttributed those sounds to other things that had nothing to do with explosives.

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Others described molten metals.

That should not be surprising that temperatures were high enough to melt aluminum, which is seen flowing out of the corner of WCT2 where the airframe of United 175 came to rest, and since temperatures were too low to melt steel, then common sense logic says that the molten metal observed was aluminum by that very fact.

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Others analyzed the dust that permeated lower Manhattan and found the chemical byproducts of thermite reaction.

No they didn't. The dust samples were contaminated during clean-up operations while high temperature wanes and torchers were in use during steel cutting operations at ground zero.

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Heavy structural steel was propelled horizontally hundreds of feet.

No mystery there! What do you think happened as compressed air forced debris outwards and away from the buildings, but most of all, what do you think happened to the facade of the WTC buildings as heavy duty parts from the B-767s smashed their way through the opposite side of those buildings?

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All that happened, all that evidence exists, but you yourself are unable to perceive it, in the same way a person who is color blind is unable to perceive certain colors.

Blind?? Then why, after more than 11 years, not one shred of evidence of a government 911 conspiracy has surfaced nor taken seriously enough to place a single government official behind bars?

Answer: There is no evidence of a government conspiracy to present.

Edited by skyeagle409, 19 May 2013 - 02:07 AM.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:11 AM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 18 May 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

You know something? I dont care if Babe Ruth dosnt understand the physics of the facts anymore,Its very clear that He and many others of the mind set   I.E. Conspiracies people will never Look at the Facts of this event.
THe Towers came down 12 years ago and the Investigators have reached there point ,and its been reviewed -re-reviewed many times,Enough said. WHat Happened  IS just as its been reported.
I will let you guys waist your time making up your fanatsy`s

It is amazing that he says that evidence is everywhere when investigations found no such evidence. They say they heard explosions, but that is not evidence of explosives.

I could very say that what they heard was nothing more than manhole or electrical explosions, which were fairly common in New York City or falling elevators, which have been confirmed by some folks as the explosive sounds they heard.

Edited by skyeagle409, 19 May 2013 - 02:12 AM.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 12:52 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 19 May 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:





From firsthand experience,  I knew as a fact that much of what 911 truthers have posted was false  at best.






Now you've got me curious Sky. If you know as fact that "much" is false... what part do you believe is not false?


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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:11 AM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 12 January 2013 - 02:16 AM, said:

Would tens/hundreds of millions in personal gain be counted as a potential reason?

Not just obvious gain, either. I saw a video where a former cop made a very strong case for 9/11 being an inside job. I wish I could remember what it was called, but it was fairly long and a very dry presentation, just him on a stage with an overhead projector in front of a live audience. He said at the beginning that he wouldn't be talking about things like remote controlled planes, missiles, or planted explosives, but that he would build a case just like he would if he was preparing to go to court. Anyway he showed evidence for the involvement of the Bush family, the CIA/drug connection, the oil angle, and talked about financial records being destroyed in one of those buildings, all backed up by what he was putting on the screen behind him. I'm not saying it was true, but it was compelling stuff if you could get past the dry presentation.

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