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[CRIPTIC CHAMELEON]

Maybe the martians offered them a call centre. lol

[freetoroam]

CRIPTIC CHAMELEON, on 23 February 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

Maybe the martians offered them a call centre. lol

yep, they offered it to India but we have had to pay for it!

[danielost]

Waspie_Dwarf, on 23 February 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

I'm not entirely sure what a small, scientific, robotic probe to another planet has to do with colonisation, overpopulation or the Earth's environment.

What it does signify is the emergence of India from developing nation into a scientific and economic superpower.

Too bad they can't make safe mountain roads.   As shown on Ice Road Truckers.

[pitchp]

india has lost the plot

[highdesert50]

Waspie_Dwarf, on 23 February 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

I'm not entirely sure what a small, scientific, robotic probe to another planet has to do with colonisation, overpopulation or the Earth's environment.

What it does signify is the emergence of India from developing nation into a scientific and economic superpower.

Indeed, but Mars has significance as the only planet we currently know of that could potentially support human colonization. The selection of Mars is paramount to putting India into that venue. The early colonists will establish the cultural mores. This assures continuity of culture, and of course a civilization, when an apocalyptic event occurs on Earth. A robotic probe may be a small first step but with the potential for far reaching consequences for a country with vision.

[calaf]

"some have argued that the country should be spending money on their problems here on Earth before investing it in endeavors elsewhere."
In all fairness this could be said of other countries.

[~C.S.M~]

Good luck with your Mars mission, India :-D

[freetoroam]

calaf, on 24 February 2013 - 01:11 AM, said:

"some have argued that the country should be spending money on their problems here on Earth before investing it in endeavors elsewhere."
In all fairness this could be said of other countries.

The UK has given billions to India, we still have t.v programmes showing the plight of the poor, we still have adverts asking us to donate money for the starving. I do not see any of the African countries which have been receiving aid for the starving using aid money to build spacecrafts and all the other billions involved to sent these up!

In all fairness, it can not be said of other countries too.

[mike72]

What a joke. Most of the country is in poverty, no food, running water, etc etc. So many social problems in the country and they want to invest in going to Mars?
Fix your country first, then try to be a player on the World scene.

[Bavarian Raven]

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What a joke. Most of the country is in poverty, no food, running water, etc etc. So many social problems in the country and they want to invest in going to Mars?
Fix your country first, then try to be a player on the World scene.

the future is in space. if we waste all our time and resources fixing everything here, we might not have the resources left to go into space. therefore the sooner we "explore and expand" the better.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

freetoroam, on 23 February 2013 - 08:16 PM, said:

India's space programme has been used to launch communications satellites, which have allowed every village in India to have a tv. This enables information and education to be beamed to even the most remote locations.


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What will they be watching? adverts and FOOD programmes? Boy, they really have got their priorities mixed up!  T.v before food and education for the villages??

Is that how they are going to educate their children? with t.v`s?

How about SCHOOLS and FOOD   first????  Thats what I thought our aid was going to them for!!

If you wish to look ill-less informed please try to read and comprehend what people have ACTUALLY said. Given that you have quoted me you can clearly see that I said that the TVs have been sent to remote villages.

I also clearly stated that the purpose of the TVs is for educational programmes. What do you think is the cheapest of the following options if you are a developing nation and you want to educate your children:

• Building schools in difficult to reach remote villages
  
• Transmit educational programmes to hundreds of villages at the same time by TV

What the Indians are doing makes perfect economic sense. The way to bring a nation out of poverty is to build sound infrastructure, educate the people and build a modern technological and scientific nation. It is hat China has already done and it is what India is doing know. That is why India has one of the fastest growing economies on Earth, because it is planning for the long term and not just tomorrow. That is why the UK will stop giving aid to India by 2015... because it no longer needs it.

If you are going to claim that India should not have a scientific programme because it has poverty then there is not a country on Earth that you could not make the same accusation of. Developed nations justify scientific research as a way of ensuring long term economic security, why should developing nations be denied the same thing?

If developing nation are criticised for having scientific programmes then how are they expected to become richer? What is the point of educating people to a high standard if there are no jobs for them afterwards?

India knows the answer to these questions, it is just sad that so many people from the supposedly better educated west can't see past their prejudices and appreciate what India is trying to achieve.

Edited by Waspie_Dwarf, 24 February 2013 - 07:43 PM.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

I've actually grown to heat posting news stories about India's space programme. I know in advance that the vast majority of posts will come from people with no knowledge or interesting in space flight making off topic attacks against India. This topic has going exactly the way I thought it would.

Sometimes you don't need to be psychic to know the future, you just have to know that more often than not the people that know the least are going to shout the loudest.

[mike72]

Bavarian Raven, on 24 February 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

the future is in space. if we waste all our time and resources fixing everything here, we might not have the resources left to go into space. therefore the sooner we "explore and expand" the better.

That makes sense of course. But when your a country that has so much social problems, i don't think it makes sense.  I'm not just picking on India. Its the same for any country.  
The company i work for has a head office in India, so we get workers coming over for training, and stuff. When i'm out for dinner with them they always say the same thing. Your so lucky to live in Country like Canada, then they go on to tell me all the problems in India, and it sounds like hell on Earth for most Indian citizens, except the rich.
The poorer class( which represents a big majority in India) murder young female babies because it will be a money burden, they murder their elderly because they can't take of them, the list goes on and on of things i heard. No rights for women, etc etc.
India is a big player, but they have so many problems at home to deal with.

Edited by mike72, 24 February 2013 - 11:47 PM.

[kobolds]

$1 million for the satellite and rocket , $82 Million lose in translation  .

next is to make sure the rocket blow out or the satellite lose in space

[wimfloppp]

they should feed their own people first