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[Slorri]

SlimJim22, on 04 August 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

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There is something to be said for ma and pa as the words that come easiest to children.

http://www.sussex.ac...re_do_mama2.pdf
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This is wonderfully explained.

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Now, this conclusion is an error. There is absolutely no evidence that babbling
children are trying to speak, and in fact linguists are pretty sure they are not. Babbling
appears t o be no more than a way of experimenting with the vocal tract, and babbled
sounds like mama and dada are not intended as meaningful utterances. But the parents
think otherwise: they are sure little Jennifer is trying to talk.
But what is Jennifer trying to say? This is not obvious, and in fact the fond
parents can only guess what Jennifer means to say. And what guess does Mother come
up with? Does she guess that little Jenny is trying to say 'banana'? Or 'telephone'? Or
'go away'? No. In almost eve ry case, Mother concludes that little Jenny is trying to say
'mother'.

[Leonardo]

SlimJim22, on 04 August 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

However, during the development and progression of sankrit and indo-european languages the philosophy becomes ever more important. As sankrit is the root that went through greece and into rome as thought and philosophy the connection appears to be a good one IMHO.

Please review this 'Family Tree' of the Indo-European languages, Jim, and perhaps then review your statement "sanskrit is the root which went through Greece and into Rome".

I-E Family Tree

[SlimJim22]

Leonardo, on 04 August 2010 - 09:01 PM, said:

Please review this 'Family Tree' of the Indo-European languages, Jim, and perhaps then review your statement "sanskrit is the root which went through Greece and into Rome".

I-E Family Tree

Excellent link Leo, you are quite right my mistake. There is some debate ongoing but I do think the Anatolian hypothesis for the origin of PIE is the most likely.

Here is a funny link that has an example of a PIE translation. Well worth a look.   Too long too post perhaps.

I meant root as in latin and germanic being derived from sanskrit rather than it being the root of all IEs. Is this accurate or do they have another source?

Still doesn't explain the connections with maya as the illusion. In greek it meant 'maker' which is comparable to matter. And now science is learning that to an extent matter is an illusion.

[Leonardo]

SlimJim22, on 04 August 2010 - 09:50 PM, said:

Excellent link Leo, you are quite right my mistake. There is some debate ongoing but I do think the Anatolian hypothesis for the origin of PIE is the most likely.

Here is a funny link that has an example of a PIE translation. Well worth a look.   Too long too post perhaps.

I meant root as in latin and germanic being derived from sanskrit rather than it being the root of all IEs. Is this accurate or do they have another source?

Still doesn't explain the connections with maya as the illusion. In greek it meant 'maker' which is comparable to matter. And now science is learning that to an extent matter is an illusion.

I am not a scholar of historical linguistics and only have an opinion based on what has been learned so far in that field (that I find agreeable), but it would appear that Sanskrit is not the (or a) root language of the Germanic or Italic languages, neither are the latter derived from Sanskrit (which is saying the same thing, really), but is a branch separate from them.

Perhaps they all share a common root (through successive 'ancestor' languages), but that root would not be Sanskrit.

Edited by Leonardo, 05 August 2010 - 06:22 AM.

[tonyfran]

Leonardo, on 05 August 2010 - 06:21 AM, said:

I am not a scholar of historical linguistics and only have an opinion based on what has been learned so far in that field (that I find agreeable), but it would appear that Sanskrit is not the (or a) root language of the Germanic or Italic languages, neither are the latter derived from Sanskrit (which is saying the same thing, really), but is a branch separate from them.

Perhaps they all share a common root (through successive 'ancestor' languages), but that root would not be Sanskrit.

It is not a co-incidence that  Mat--- is the root for mother in most languages in the world, and Pat (Fat--) is the root for father in most languages as Sanskrit is the root language for most languages in the world including German in which mathr means maternal and pithr means paternal.
Maternal means substance which is formed and paternal means the design into which it is formed.
According to this analysis, the soil inside a garden will be classified as mother, and the seed of a plant as father.
The product (fruit or flower or seed will be the son which will become the father of a new generation.)
and the plant itself will rot and become the mother of the new generation. Thus the species of plant will re-generate itself year after year and ensure its continued existence for centuries to come.
This analysis will not be accepted by some groups for obvious reasons

[quicksilv3r0]

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