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#256    rashore

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:19 PM

I wonder if the LAPD will continue with the investigation of Dorners firing. They said they were doing it for transparency to the public, and because the public called for it. But now that Dorner very well might be dead I wonder how much they will continue with that.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:59 PM

why investigate a dead mans firing. Its not like they can hire him back.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

I know the cops are scared... but that does not justify shooting first and asking questions later.... I feel for that guy and those women. They dont talk about his case or why they fired him..... I've lost jobs, no big deal.  I wonder what went down to make this man snap.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:22 PM

Vigilante justice. He thought he had something (knew) the world needed to hear and thats how he told his story. For better or worse.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

View PostMichelle, on 13 February 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

So, not taking the word of the press as gospel and expressing doubt are now considered defending? You do know what the word alleged means and why it is usually used when talking about a suspect?

My comment about it being a perfect time to kill a cop didn't have anything to do with Dorner. Like the people wondering if there is going to be a riot I was wondering if someone might take advantage of the situation.

You complain about people twisting your words, but you seem to be quite the contortionist yourself.
" The police would never even look for another suspect."

Look, we`ll agree to disagree on this, but at the end of the day there are corrupt police, and they need to be dealt with, but thats not an easy thing to prove overnight. I hope some in depth investigations comes out of all this  and they are brought to trial with a fair jury.
But what he done was not the right way of going about things. It was always going to end in more tragedy. Its not much different from Roahl Moats incident here, but Moats was not a trained police man, his aim was to cause as much disruption as possible before he died. Similar to this cop.
What it does show is that all the training still does not make them any wiser, it just makes them even more dangerous if someone does something wrong against them. If every one took the same actions as Dorners or Moats because they had enough of society, then this kind of news would be on our t.vs everyday.
You have had the Sandy Hook incident, (which was much much worse) to me there is not too much difference in the mindset, both had a gripe with society and decided to take it out on innocent people.
Gripes can NEVER be justified for shooting innocent people..

Edited by freetoroam, 13 February 2013 - 07:49 PM.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:10 PM

You have to be one of the most nitpicky people in the world. :D


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:56 PM

what would you think was meant by the term "burner?  



It is not yet clear whether the fire was started from inside or by police officers who were firing bullets and tear gas canisters at the cabin.

In one audio clip purporting to be a police scanner conversation, a male voice can be heard saying: "All right, Steve, we're gonna go, er, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with, er, with the burn. We want it, er, like we talked about.

"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."


It is unclear whether "the burn" refers to tear gas.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:09 PM

I heard that yes, burner means tear gas.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:10 PM

View PostMichelle, on 13 February 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

You have to be one of the most nitpicky people in the world. :D
See, we do have something in common. :passifier:

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:21 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 13 February 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

See, we do have something in common. :passifier:

I know...I spend hours a day on here explaining to people why they are wrong and I'm right. :innocent:


View PostSweetpumper, on 13 February 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

I heard that yes, burner means tear gas.

Thank you, I was wondering about that.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:27 PM

View PostMichelle, on 13 February 2013 - 09:21 PM, said:

I know...I spend hours a day on here explaining to people why they are wrong and I'm right. :innocent:


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In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:29 PM

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 03:42 AM

View PostMichelle, on 13 February 2013 - 02:14 AM, said:

They usually show mug shots, but he has never been arrested.

What about the school shooters? What about the last three prominent mass murderers? They made Manson's photos look like candid shots from a high school yearbook. Dorner looks like a warm and fuzzy teddy bear.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 03:56 AM

View PostDetective Mystery 2013, on 14 February 2013 - 03:42 AM, said:

What about the school shooters? What about the last three prominent mass murderers? They made Manson's photos look like candid shots from a high school yearbook. Dorner looks like a warm and fuzzy teddy bear.


Looks like they found a wallet with a drivers licience that wasn`t melted or burned and thats what they are using to confirm it was him.  I have listened to the audio and watched the cabin burn. Go to liveleak to hear and see it yourself. I think it`s him but not sure 100 %

Manson was portrayed that way because he didn`t kill anyone himself. It was to demonize him. They can`t do that with a hero to some.

Edited by The Silver Thong, 14 February 2013 - 03:58 AM.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 04:09 AM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 14 February 2013 - 03:56 AM, said:

Looks like they found a wallet with a drivers licience that wasn`t melted or burned and thats what they are using to confirm it was him.  I have listened to the audio and watched the cabin burn. Go to liveleak to hear and see it yourself. I think it`s him but not sure 100 %

Manson was portrayed that way because he didn`t kill anyone himself. It was to demonize him. They can`t do that with a hero to some.

I'm glad that they evidently stopped him. He was an evil and/or insane person. Still, I'm not glad that he apparently burned alive. I wouldn't wish that on Hitler. It's somewhat strange that his driver's license remained unscathed. I hope that they can identify his remains in a definitive manner. That won't stop the conspiracy theories and speculation, though. You know how that goes.

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