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[Quaentum]

Mario Dantas, on 11 January 2013 - 10:57 PM, said:

Wow, you just connected my theory with the very worst material on the internet! What is the matter with you?

Had you actually bothered to read what was written starting with Archimedes wanting to know where Atlantis wasn't, my reply to him, kmt_sesh reply to me and my reply that you are complaining about, you would have seen that while it is in this thread, it never touched your theory or tied it into anything.

[Mario Dantas]

Dear Quaentum,

Maybe it was not your intention to connect my theory with any of the "trash" material stated before, but the truth is that you did! The internet is one big melting pot and as soon as you introduce such comments in any site's thread, it will automatically be linked to those key words. I am sorry if i lost my temper, please accept my sincere apologies.

Regards,
Mario Dantas

[Harte]

This thread has some value.

For all the pretty pictures.

That's about it.

Harte

[G Donnelly]

I'm really sorry to pooh-pooh this theory...
But Atlantis isn't buried underneath Greenland.I believe it's closer to home in the shape of the Greek islands.You'll have to consider that Plato cannot see anything beyond his own world.He clearly described seas of mud which is interpreted as pumice coming from a volcanic explosion.In his own little world the only thing that fits the bill is the modern day island of Thira which used to be called Santorini before Plato's time.
He also mentioned an island within an island. Just Google Earth piccies of if you don't believe me.Plato didn't say anything about seas of ice.And beyond the Pillars Of Hercules is a bit of a red herring because Plato didn't mean it is a literal history but just a story.So if anybody who reckons that Atlantis is beyond the Pillar Of Hercules is incorrect even though they are thinking outside the box.It dosn't matter if somebody says the climate was different those many thousands of years ago.

Edited by Medium Brown, 15 January 2013 - 10:47 PM.

[Abramelin]

Medium Brown, on 15 January 2013 - 10:38 PM, said:

I'm really sorry to pooh-pooh this theory...
But Atlantis isn't buried underneath Greenland.I believe it's closer to home in the shape of the Greek islands.You'll have to consider that Plato cannot see anything beyond his own world.He clearly described seas of mud which is interpreted as pumice coming from a volcanic explosion.In his own little world the only thing that fits the bill is the modern day island of Thira which used to be called Santorini before Plato's time.
He also mentioned an island within an island. Just Google Earth piccies of if you don't believe me.Plato didn't say anything about seas of ice.And beyond the Pillars Of Hercules is a bit of a red herring because Plato didn't mean it is a literal history but just a story.So if anybody who reckons that Atlantis is beyond the Pillar Of Hercules is incorrect even though they are thinking outside the box.It dosn't matter if somebody says the climate was different those many thousands of years ago.

The problem with that theory is that Plato never mentions a volcanic eruption in his tale about Atlantis. And it was the largest volcanic eruption in human history.

Btw, the island was called Santorini from medieval times.

And it had other names too:

Before then, it was known as Kallístē (Καλλίστη, "the most beautiful one"), Strongýlē (Greek: Στρογγύλη, "the circular one"), or Thēra.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorini


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Edited by Abramelin, 20 January 2013 - 06:16 AM.

[G Donnelly]

Abramelin, on 20 January 2013 - 06:16 AM, said:

The problem with that theory is that Plato never mentions a volcanic eruption in his tale about Atlantis. And it was the largest volcanic eruption in human history.

Btw, the island was called Santorini from medieval times.

And it had other names too:

Before then, it was known as Kallístē (Κaλλίστη, "the most beautiful one"), Strongılē (Greek: Στρογγύλη, "the circular one"), or Thēra.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorini


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You can possibly blame me and my uncle for this one.
We decided to pick a random thread in this sub- forum to discuss.
So basically I'm relying on second hand knowledge which I memorised.
I think Atlantis or whatever it's  name is still closer to home than you think.
It's impossible to think that my uncle got his Plato manuscripts muddled up.
He also mentioned houses being made from black,red and white brick on the original Santorini.
This is still a recognisable feature on modern day Thira.
Despite all this I can't get the thought of the orange rectangle out of my head that was seen on Greenland.
Even though it's a glitch with Google Earth which far as I know has been rectified.

Edited by Medium Brown, 20 January 2013 - 02:37 PM.

[Abramelin]

Maybe you already posted it somewhere, Medium Brown, but who is your uncle in the Atlantis threads? Proclus? Mario Dantas? Just to know exactly what theory you are talking about.

[acriasis]

Some interesting information about Atlantis can be found here:

http://originalscien...a-triangle.html

and also at this site:

http://www.atlantise.../evidence2.html

[Abramelin]

acriasis, on 20 January 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

Some interesting information about Atlantis can be found here:

http://originalscien...a-triangle.html

and also at this site:

http://www.atlantise.../evidence2.html

You know, there is a hell of a lot of information about Atlantis on THIS site.

And also many discussions between skeptics and believers, and both sides digging deep to hunt for the 'truth'.

It appears you are a new arrival, Acriasis, so, Welcome to UM.

You should try to find your way around here, and first of all:  learn to use the search tool. I'll tell you: I registered in 2005, but my first post on UM was years later.

There's much to read.

[G Donnelly]

Abramelin, on 20 January 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

Maybe you already posted it somewhere, Medium Brown, but who is your uncle in the Atlantis threads? Proclus? Mario Dantas? Just to know exactly what theory you are talking about.

Lol. Well I know for a fact he isn't Archimedes because it wasn't exactly an eureka moment.
There's no mention of seas of mud,houses of red,black and white brick or even an island within an island.
I'm as curious as you as to what document,dialogue or whatever he got his source material from.
But it wasn't Plato for damn sure so it's not surprising you threw some more suspects into the ring.
As far as I'm concerned Plato was the only telling tales about Atlantis at the time.
My uncle could have got his info from a more embellished source though.
I was thinking of inviting him to the forum but he might get laughed off.
His other little gem was the fact according to him there's absolutely no chance of life existing outside our earth.
That includes every star system in every galaxy.
Tis a shame because he's really into his Egyptology which is why I thought he would be reliable.

Edited by Medium Brown, 20 January 2013 - 06:46 PM.

[Mario Dantas]

To all,

Why is the northern Mid Atlantic Ridge anomaly, in front of Gibraltar, the strongest anomaly on earth? Why a given model, in that particular region, attest a continental fit between east Greenland, Northwestern Africa and Iberian Peninsula?

Tubarões Azuis (Blue Sharks)

https://picasaweb.go...AzuisBlueSharks

My experiment is based on a pure tectonic approach rather than on results within the known chronological timescale. There is not any continental fit between Africa and North America, but one can observe Greenland being perfectly integrated in the North Atlantic region.

Gibraltar region is again giving clues as to what might have happened, in the surroundings. Reuters, said the following regarding the last Atlantis research in Spain:

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Lost city of Atlantis, swamped by tsunami, may be found


(Reuters) - A U.S.-led research team may have finally located the lost city of Atlantis, the legendary metropolis believed swamped by a tsunami thousands of years ago in mud flats in southernSpain.

"This is the power of tsunamis," head researcher Richard Freund toldReuters.

"It is just so hard to understand that it can wipe out 60 miles inland, and that's pretty much what we're talking about," said Freund, a University of Hartford, Connecticut, professor who lead an international team searching for the true site of Atlantis.

To solve the age-old mystery, the team used a satellite photo of a suspected submerged city to find the site just north of Cadiz, Spain. There, buried in the vast marshlands of the Dona Ana Park, they believe that they pinpointed the ancient, multi-ringed dominion known as Atlantis.

http://www.reuters.c...E72B2JR20110312

​These guys have just "scratched the surface"... there must have been unimaginable sized waves, capable of creating the Richat structure formation, in Guelb er Richat, Mauretania:

https://lh6.googleus...03_Richat_H.jpg
https://lh3.googleus...0/argargasg.jpg

The whole Sahara desert and Arabian Peninsula might have been "created" or covered up by sand and debris, when the above said events took place. Underneath Dona Ana Park lies (very likely) one of the many cities that might have existed, at the time of Atlantis (*if* it ever existed). Unexplained continental debris found in the middle of the North Atlantic ocean floor must belong to ancient beaches... likewise the river sand, dust and fossils found in the Sahara are perhaps the evidence that a major water invasion occurred, at the time of the earthquakes that "sunk" Atlantis, mentioned by Plato.

Regards,
Mario Dantas

Edited by Mario Dantas, 20 January 2013 - 09:18 PM.

[G Donnelly]

Edit to add: I've just realised those two guys you mentioned are fellow posters.

In that case then my uncle was trying to debunk them.
Especially Proteas who's insistent that Atlantis is underneath Greenland.
My uncle wasn't suggesting anything of the sort even though he's a bit off in some details.
But the Mediterratean is as good as starting point as any to begin the search for Atlantis.
Unless we are whistling in the wind.
As if tectonic plates are going to move Greenland in such a short space of time.
Proteas will be saying next that the Titanic collided with Greenland.

Edited by Medium Brown, 20 January 2013 - 09:19 PM.

[Mario Dantas]

To whoever,

Another coincidental fact is that Cape Verde and Bermuda are nearly in a same level as the "tip" of the anomaly, on the northern MAR and located strategically between the two locations:

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Earth's Crust Missing In Mid-Atlantic

Scientists have discovered a large area thousands of square kilometres in extent in the middle of the Atlantic where the Earth’s crust appears to be missing. Instead, the mantle - the deep interior of the Earth, normally covered by crust many kilometres thick - is exposed on the seafloor, 3000m below the surface.
Marine geologist Dr Chris MacLeod, School of Earth, Ocean and Planetary Sciences said: "This discovery is like an open wound on the surface of the Earth. Was the crust never there? Was it once there but then torn away on huge geological faults? If so, then how and why?"

http://www.scienceda...70301103112.htm

Centered, in front of Gibraltar, as the hand of a watch, the gravitational anomaly is probably showing that there was a continental "swing" which left two equidistant points in the north Atlantic with a special geologic mark...

The Appalachian orogeny, on the other side of the Atlantic, has the same length as the highest gravitational anomaly on the planet. These lengths, as well as Greenland's, are in some way related. The beginning of the Sahel corridor, the southerner boundary of the Sahara, ending in the the Atlas range are geographic limits that exist for some reason! The three formations have very approximated figures, meaning that there could have been a relationship between them:

Greenland                 length - 2670 Km
Appalachians              length - 2400 Km
Sahara (longitudinal)     length - 1800 Km*

*(missing parts of it might have been blown off by thousands of years of wind and water erosion, thus justifying its lesser size, e.g. moving dunes can travel 100 m in a year)

Concluding, the Geoidetical information on the northern MAR anomaly, Bermuda and Cape Verde could be the "proven" proof that in fact something *might* have happened 10.000 years ago...

Regards,
Mario Dantas

Edited by Mario Dantas, 21 January 2013 - 09:22 AM.

[Mario Dantas]

Edited by Mario Dantas, 21 January 2013 - 08:05 PM.

[Mario Dantas]