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#3301    Valdemar the Great

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:15 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 09 October 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

No kidding... Sigh... Really?! Ok, I'm pot colored in kets, so? Woo woo stuff still stays woo woo, no matter how you paint it.
So why do you spend so much time poking fun at anything to do with the subject of UFOs with one-liner witticisms if you have no interest in it at all? So is it just to laugh at all the woo woo?

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:15 PM

Bias. Yes everyone has it. We should all be constantly engaged in an effort to curb that bias as much as possible, in ourselves as much as others. That is where objectivity stems from.

You should only ever embrace bias if you are to take it one step further and put bias in a headlock and pummel it into submission. :P

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:20 PM

View Post747400, on 09 October 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

So why do you spend so much time poking fun at anything to do with the subject of UFOs with one-liner witticisms if you have no interest in it at all? So is it just to laugh at all the woo woo?

Some people just need to find a hobby outside of internet forums.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:29 PM

View Post747400, on 09 October 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

So why do you spend so much time poking fun at anything to do with the subject of UFOs with one-liner witticisms if you have no interest in it at all? So is it just to laugh at all the woo woo?
OK, lets make that straight: UFO is UFO, not ET, maybe you think E is equal UF and T is equal O, but in my dictionary its not, period. And yeah, woo woos deserve laughed at.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:30 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 09 October 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

Some people just need to find a hobby outside of internet forums.
Hmmm, where's yours...

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:34 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 09 October 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Hmmm, where's yours...

Certainly not here.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:34 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 09 October 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

OK, lets make that straight: UFO is UFO, not ET, maybe you think E is equal UF and T is equal O, but in my dictionary its not, period. And yeah, woo woos deserve laughed at.

How would you know?


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:54 PM

View Postquillius, on 09 October 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:


McG did not start it, Zoser posed the question and said he doesnt write him off yet. Hazz then said ....anyway read trail shown above.

Good re-cap, quillius.

zoser/Mcg, whats the difference,... I still cant help wondering, that the point Im trying to make is lost on some people? :unsure2:

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:10 PM

View PostHazzard, on 08 October 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Wait a minute,... So, any UFO legend, like Adamski Bob Lazar or Billy Meier, that is proven to be a lier and a hoaxer just has to be a government disinformation agent?!!

Is that really what you are saying here??

Steady on Haz; it's far from proven.  If you feel it has been then show me.  The jury is still very much out on Adamski.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:28 PM

lol, if you say so...


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:34 PM

View PostHazzard, on 09 October 2012 - 08:54 PM, said:

zoser/Mcg, whats the difference,... I still cant help wondering, that the point Im trying to make is lost on some people? :unsure2:

I could same the same about you, BTK, Bunker, Fritz and the rest.  What's the difference?  

As for your point, if you wear your hat right no one will notice it.


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:36 PM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 09 October 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

lol, if you say so...

There were a few folk that I know of close to Adamski who testified to seeing the same craft hovering in the skies.  This needs to be dealt with before anyone can say 'case closed'.  I'm sorry but that is a fact.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:39 PM

View Postzoser, on 09 October 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

Steady on Haz; it's far from proven.  If you feel it has been then show me.  The jury is still very much out on Adamski.

I've never really looked into Adamski, I read his books, and well anyone could write them, there was nothing in there to go on, nothing offered that could be varified. Never looked into his footage though, i've seen it, but never seen any testing of it, I still have loads of 8 and 16mm film, and still have cini cameras and projectors, the thing i've found with both 8 and 16mm is it looks flat (don't know what the technical would be), but it's almost a flat, 2 dimensional image. So how would you you go about testing such footage?

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:44 PM

View PostThe Sky Scanner, on 09 October 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

I've never really looked into Adamski, I read his books, and well anyone could write them, there was nothing in there to go on, nothing offered that could be varified. Never looked into his footage though, i've seen it, but never seen any testing of it, I still have loads of 8 and 16mm film, and still have cini cameras and projectors, the thing i've found with both 8 and 16mm is it looks flat (don't know what the technical would be), but it's almost a flat, 2 dimensional image. So how would you you go about testing such footage?

His footage has been analysed many times.  The analysis I saw on a documentary examined closely the edges of the craft and found some inexplicable anomalies that could only be attributed to powerful electromagnetic distortion.  

The craft do not look 'elegant'  If they were cars they would be more like Russian made Lada's.  They hover rather clumsily and this seems to be the main reason why people dismiss him as a fraud.  The craft look unconvincing.  But then how would we know since very few people have ever been lucky enough to see a saucer at very close range.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:04 PM

Mansfield OH Helicopter Case - 1973

This case has already been mentioned on this thread so I'm not going to say a great deal except that I came across this amazing short clip with several testimonies from key witnesses.  The pilots had been told to keep quiet about the incident for a while after it occurred.  The helicopter involved had suffered strange electronic malfunctions after the incident and the clip also contains testimonies from witnesses on the ground that corroborate the pilot's experiences.  The helicopter was apparently pulled upwards in some sort of tractor beam.  Highly recommended.




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