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#1    The Raven

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 05:47 AM

After a recent spark of renewed interest, I have decided to first ask the folks at UM before I waste any money on knowledge that comes from more places than websites.

I am interested in hearing anything and everything you know about Druids, Magic, and Pagan religions. Doesn't matter if it's been said a thousand times, it's still good information.

I am also interested in hearing personal stories dealing with any of these factors. Please only post in this if you actually know something about it, and are not going to post something like "Druids are the devil's followers"

I just want to have a worthwhile discussion for once.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 06:16 AM

I wish I knew how to word it.. but I think everything I've said in the past about my damneddirtytreehugginghippiepagan beliefs is enough.

I refuse to be labled "New Age" or "Neo Pagan"  since what I believe in is older then human recolection will ever know.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 09:36 AM

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I am interested in hearing anything and everything you know about Druids, Magic, and Pagan religions.


I heard they are relics from the past.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 11:43 AM

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but I think everything I've said in the past about my damneddirtytreehugginghippiepagan beliefs is enough.

You sell yourself short dear lady, I find your beliefs quite refreshing after the Hell and Damnation offered up by so many on this forum.  I have had quite a few friends (especially when I lived in East Anglia) that were Druids, Wiccans, and Pagans of other stripes (knew some Greek Pagans when I lived in Athens).  I found that their belief system was a much more friendly and natural way of viewing the creation that the Creator (or Gods and Goddesses)  gave us.  Mankind is basically good, a fact that Pagans recognize, and following the morals and beliefs of the Pagan systems is as effective (if not more so) than that of the mainline major religions (with the possible exception of true Buddhism)  yes.gif  


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Posted 19 July 2005 - 12:40 PM

Having just read "To Ride a Silver Broomstick" (or something like that), I was surprised at how closely witchcraft intersects with the major monotheistic religions.  For those that worship a god or goddess, you do rituals to honor them, seek their aid, commune with them.   Rituals and spells could be akin to Christian prayer, just with more elaboration.

I'm not talking about a specific Christian sect (ie Roman Catholicism etc.), just in general.  Paganism or Witchcraft seems a very tiring religion, and I don't quite see how you have much time to do anything else besides study and do rituals.  The premise is good, but I also think the premise of Christianity is good.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 04:11 PM

'To ride a silver broomstick' would follow a lot of wicca....which is basically a newer believe that follows a rede and has things such as circles and such, they may follow one god or goddess basically because a lot of the followers of this are christian or other religion converts that aren't necessarily ready to let go of old ideas, some only stay for a time others longer. But some people who follow the older ways may follow multiple or no gods.....it's up to what the person wants feels whether they cast or do constant rituals is a personal choice among each follower/believer

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 04:24 PM

The druids were called the people of the oak. Unfortunately any language and writings were done on bark and leaves. Which doesn’t preserve well, that is why we know so little about them. Most is speculation based on stories from Bards of the middle ages.
Many have claimed they understand the magic of the Druids but have no way to back up their claims so most is myth and legends.
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Posted 19 July 2005 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE(bacca @ Jul 19 2005, 12:11 PM)
'To ride a silver broomstick' would follow a lot of wicca....which is basically a newer believe that follows a rede and has things such as circles and such, they may follow one god or goddess basically because a lot of the followers of this are christian or other religion converts that aren't necessarily ready to let go of old ideas, some only stay for a time others longer. But some people who follow the older ways may follow multiple or no gods.....it's up to what the person wants feels whether they cast or do constant rituals is a personal choice among each follower/believer

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Thanks bacca.  The books was not to explanatory on which 'branch' of religion it was talking about.  All I took from it was... way too many rituals, and some of them sounded like they had no purpose.  It was like Roman Catholicism (with a different god/dess) for Environmentalists or something.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 06:24 PM

A good book for basics that will give you some wiccan info and god/goddess info would be something like 'solitary witch, book of shadows' it is written buy the same author as the to ride a silver broomstick. I have a copy and although I don't really follow what that book teaches it's a good one for basics at least in my opinion. Then start looking in more places and talking to different people and following what you believe is right, you should learn to listen to yourself and to follow what nature tells you.....well anyway hope that is something for you...there are pagans on here that are much better at explaining things then me since I can't exactly fall into any one category  thumbsup.gif

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 06:40 PM

I'm pretty much on the path for me already, but I am always eager to learn about other philosophies/religions.  I tend to think that going back to the source - the earliest ideas etc. and am not too interested in 'new' religions.

Sorry for straying a bit from the topic.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE(Irish @ Jul 19 2005, 04:24 PM)
The druids were called the people of the oak. Unfortunately any language and writings were done on bark and leaves. Which doesn’t preserve well, that is why we know so little about them. Most is speculation based on stories from Bards of the middle ages.
Many have claimed they understand the magic of the Druids but have no way to back up their claims so most is myth and legends.
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And that's why there are so many misconceptions and whatnot about them.

*grins* ANd Mako... as refreshing as it is...  X) I'm still just a damneddirtytreehugginghippiepagan

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 12:50 AM

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 01:52 AM

*dies laughing*

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 08:20 AM

Well, when the student is ready the teacher will appear. When you say druids, pagans and ... what exactly you looking for? at? into?


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Posted 20 July 2005 - 10:02 AM

I regret that I have been involved with magic and 'the Circle' before, taking the element of 'fire'. I've talked briefly about the after effects on here a few times. Here's some advice from someone who has been there. Don't do it..


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