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#46    Keosen

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 08:41 AM

View Post1963, on 26 July 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

But, I believe that the older ones have exponentially more potential for non-fakery!

I agree on this, there is some old photographs that have a lot more potential than the vast majority of the recent ones to be real UFO (not aliens but UFO)

The one you posted is the most known of it's kind, Robert Sheaffer document pretty much proves that the photo can be a fake although it's doesn't really prove that is not genuine either. I'll quote some interesting points of it.

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There exists no factual basis for rejecting the following hypothesis: At approximately 8:20 in the morning of May 11, 1950, a small asymmetrical model was suspended from overhead telephone wires by two very thin threads. It was photographed once, then reoriented either by hand or by its assumption of a pendulum-type motion, and photographed again.

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Of course, this does not "prove" that the photographs do not show an extraordinary flying object, but it has shown that there is no reason to believe that they do. The non-existence of such objects, as well as that of werewolves, witches, and unicorns, can never be "proven." No amount of negative evidence will seem conclusive so long as there exists a strong will to believe.

Another interesting,large and awfully detailed analysis of the photo can be found here http://brumac.8k.com/trent2.html

In my opinion the photo is hoax judging from how stationary the disk looks it looks as well as from the size of it.
To accept that if a photo cannot yet be proven wrong then it must show something real and especially an alien flying cab it requires a bring big leap of faith.

The Cottingley Fairies lasted as genuine for over 70 years and they were just cardboard.
That doesn't mean that in 1920 the correct answer to the question "Does fairies exists?" was "Yes, take look at Cottingley Fairies photos that seems genuine"

Some photos are unexplainable yes, but the UFO in them is an "unexplained object" not an "explained by aliens" object, that's the bottom line.

Edited by Keosen, 27 July 2011 - 08:45 AM.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 04:58 PM

In Ufology, to get to the really good stuff, one has to wade through a lot of fakes, hoaxes and misidentified conventional objects, but it's always been that way.  Maybe 80-90% of cases will go out the window because of that, but then we are still left with incidents that no one has ever been able to explain--of incredible things reported by credible observers, as Gen. Samford put it back in 1952.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 05:14 PM

View PostTheMcGuffin, on 27 July 2011 - 04:58 PM, said:

In Ufology, to get to the really good stuff, one has to wade through a lot of fakes, hoaxes and misidentified conventional objects, but it's always been that way.  Maybe 80-90% of cases will go out the window because of that, but then we are still left with incidents that no one has ever been able to explain--of incredible things reported by credible observers, as Gen. Samford put it back in 1952.
Don't you think that after all these years we should have something better to go on than purportedly credible reports from purportedly credible observers?  The fact that we really don't have anything better than this seems to indicate that it isn't really what many people want it to be.


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Posted 27 July 2011 - 05:40 PM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 27 July 2011 - 05:14 PM, said:

Don't you think that after all these years we should have something better to go on than purportedly credible reports from purportedly credible observers?  The fact that we really don't have anything better than this seems to indicate that it isn't really what many people want it to be.


Even back in 1947, there were photos of something unknown flaying around that truly puzzled the military, like these from Newfoundland--the cloud-cutter UFO that left a strange vapor trail.  The standard explanation was that it could have been a low-level meteor, although something about that theory didn't sound quite right:

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"On the afternoon of 10th of July a remarkable sighting took place which would influence the official investigation over the next two years and would be reflected on their sighting report questionnaire. Near Stephenville Cross, Newfoundland, three men returning by car from a fishing trip saw a bluish-black vapor trail. It cut a channel through the clouds estimated to be at 8,000 to 10,000 feet. It parted the clouds. One of the observers got a camera and took two photographs of the gap that had been opened in the clouds.


They viewed a seemingly translucent disk-like wheel traveling at a high rate of speed and parting the clouds behind it. The explanation generally put forth for this report is a "low altitude meteor." If that were so, one would think that meteor tracers would want to see this case and it would be examined in the scientific literature. Not a chance. The three letter initials "UFO" apparently consigned it to scientific limbo. Presumably the feeling was that the only inquiring minds that will look at UFOs are the ones that get their material off the supermarket checkout line magazine racks."


http://www.project19...swell/ufo47.htm

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 05:49 PM

Are there are thousands of similar cases out there delivering the same degree of not very much at all.  It is enough to keep the dream alive though, I'll give it that.


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:16 AM

$100 says google put it there. Google is known to mess with people.





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