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[Professor T]

Seeker79, on 23 November 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

The ones the movie the 4th kind was based on.

I'll have to dust off my copy and have another look at this..

I watched this years ago, but found it quite outlandish and thought it was just another one of those stupid Mockumentarys.. The film follows a therapist who uses hypnosis to try and get to the bottom of weird events happening in alaska, and supposedly uses some of the real recordings of regression sessions regarding abductions.
According to wikipedia they promoted the film by creating some fake news stories pertaining to dissaperances in Nome alaska, but were fined and ordered to remove the stories, but there is supposedly some real truth behind some 20 unusual dissaperances that lead to the FBI being called in to try and figure out what happened.. Their findings were that people just got drunk and wandered off never to be seen again.. As usual, there's nothing cut n' dried about it, and it all comes down to how an idividual percieves the events as opposed to any offical cause other than alcohol and overactive imaginations.. no surprises there really..

Edited to add link to report on whgat movie is based on. http://www.adn.com/2...me-attract.html

Edited by Professor T, 23 November 2012 - 08:33 PM.

[Seeker79]

Professor T, on 23 November 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

I'll have to dust off my copy and have another look at this..

I watched this years ago, but found it quite outlandish and thought it was just another one of those stupid Mockumentarys.. The film follows a therapist who uses hypnosis to try and get to the bottom of weird events happening in alaska, and supposedly uses some of the real recordings of regression sessions regarding abductions.
According to wikipedia they promoted the film by creating some fake news stories pertaining to dissaperances in Nome alaska, but were fined and ordered to remove the stories, but there is supposedly some real truth behind some 20 unusual dissaperances that lead to the FBI being called in to try and figure out what happened.. Their findings were that people just got drunk and wandered off never to be seen again.. As usual, there's nothing cut n' dried about it, and it all comes down to how an idividual percieves the events as opposed to any offical cause other than alcohol and overactive imaginations.. no surprises there really..

Edited to add link to report on whgat movie is based on. http://www.adn.com/2...me-attract.html

Yes... All that sounds accurate... But the Other half of the scenarios is a sleep paralysis altered state experiences.... Mixed with the drunken disappearances plus sensationalism. I know these things. Im pretty good at spotting the truth from the fiction within a descent margin.

The hard work and odd hours of the sun  makes altered state theories in Alaska  prime.

It was a movie . There are truths behind it. But it's not just drunken Alaskans. It's a multifaceted phenomenon.

[Professor T]

I think this is an interesting proposition...
Beings, Entities, Aliens, call them what you will, but they/we are not confined to a single Dimention of existence or awareness. We percieve our 3d reality as it is being solid and from a self point of view but those interested in and experimenting with dreams, consiousness and metaphisics place their attention on perceptions and as a result become conscious of different dimentions, and occasionally catch glimses or examples of the 4th or 5th dimention..
As 3-d beings, we have complete control over all of the lower dimentions and can take and manipulate lower dimentions at will.. Likewise, Beings at a higher vibrational frequency/dimention has the same power over us..

http://serendip.bryn...change/node/432

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Another interesting event is the locked-safe example. Say our 2-D being has its 2-D treasure stored away in a 2-D safe. As members of the third dimension, we can see the treasure inside the safe because we can see all 2-D points simultaneously. Additionally, we can move in and out of the 2-D plane as we choose, and move around it by moving in our third spatial option. Because of this option, it is possible to take the treasure out of the safe without “opening” it. Theoretically, the same thing is possible for a 4-D being. What we perceive as “solid” is no longer so. Any stability we perceive in our environment can be circumnavigated within the fourth dimension.

If I were a 4th or 5th Dimentional being and wanted to take a peek at something in the 3-d dimension, there would be nothing stopping me.. I could move though walls, I could take and manipulate anything at will with no fear of recourse or retribution.. The poor 3-d object would have no idea what my intention was, and it could easily be interpreted as an abduction.. Yet from a 4th or 5th dimensional being my intention could be something as benign as showing an interest and wanting to take a look..

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

Well Proff T - you are opening a 'real' conversation up now. Probably the most real conversation i have ever seen on this forum yet so thanks and bear with this discourse.

I want to say first of all, that dimensions in their numbered order do not signify a hierarchy system. We tend to look at it that way because that is how our 3d minds are programmed to think. Our whole societies are built on the whole hierarchy systems, and while that does exist on other dimensions too, it isn't technically a system of the 'higher the dimension you can connect to',  the higher you are. It is to a point of saying 5d, because that is where we are going in consciousness as a collective, so anything less than that in the future is going to be hopeless... But the emphasis is more on being 'multi dimensional' = the more dimensions you are connected to in your awareness, the more of whole the picture and clarity you can perceive and ascertain. That is what I would call being connected to your higher or highest/ soul consciousness to be.

That makes 2d just as significant as 6d or 7d - 2d is the level of the elemental and they can still whip us just as hard as any other. We may think in our 3d minds (ego) that we have control over the lower dimensions, but we don't. When it comes to discussing low level frequency/ neg beings/ entities it's more of a case of ascertaining their frequency level per whatever dimension they come from. And then recognising with in that dimension the tiers..So low level 3d is total scum, so is low level 4d and 5d and 6d to a point....

For example I was approached by high ranking entity of the 8d, in a house i was staying in back in June. There was no issue or upset over all, although initially there was, but this entity was of a polar opposite energy to what i am. Once i had explained that i was not there to change or disrupt its 'space'  (must have been perceiving from 8d) it let me be. It wasn't very particularly easy to be in that energy though, and more of a  matter of tolerance level, but i still learned an awful lot from it and will be able to tolerate a wider spectrum of energy as a result. This entity didn't have a bad motive or intention towards me and it was as multi dimensional as i was, so it too had a 5d self and 4d self that was not out to cause havoc. But it was a total bad ass warrior in it's 8d self. See this is getting into he really nitty gritty stuff. If you accept you are a multi dimensional being, then one aspect of you on another level could be of a differing polarity. Doesn't mean that equates service to self motives though, if the rest of you is more inclined the other way.

I'm going to stop there, but everything you said is about moving away from linear 3d thinking into a more wholesome multi dimensional thinking.

Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 06 December 2012 - 11:30 PM.

[constantine_337]

I've read a few accounts of abductee's that report that they were told by the entities that they are able to be it multiple dimensions at one time. Someone said they were told that the being could be 20% in there own dimension and 80% percent in ours at the same time.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

constantine_337, on 07 December 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

I've read a few accounts of abductee's that report that they were told by the entities that they are able to be it multiple dimensions at one time. Someone said they were told that the being could be 20% in there own dimension and 80% percent in ours at the same time.

In a sense we are too. I believe there is a part of our consciousness which is always residing on the astral level. Then when we sleep we shift more of our awareness that way naturally.  The dimension of dreaming and thought level (4d)  is different from the physical dimension of 3d. People who are great day dreamers,or who are producing music, art or highly creative things, are constantly shifting or splitting their awareness in a similar way 80 % here 20% there. Or for many the other way around. What we all want is a balance eventually, 50/50 . If the majority of the human race could be sitting at 50/50 or 33/ 33 /33 we would live in a very different world.

So the real difference between mediums, projecters, and remote viewers and artists (people who create) with  'everyone else' is nothing but how much awareness is engaged, activated and shifted between different dimensions. Learning to astral project is the easiest way imo to sort of establish and work through to this whole universal world view.

Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 07 December 2012 - 06:06 PM.

[constantine_337]

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People who are great day dreamers,or who are producing music, art or highly creative things, are constantly shifting or splitting their awareness in a similar way 80 % here 20% there.

Funny you should mention that. I just watched a program where a psychologist who does alien abduction hypnosis, stated that most abductees, after their experience, tend to get involved in music, poetry, art, etc.

[Professor T]

bLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 07 December 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

So the real difference between mediums, projecters, and remote viewers and artists (people who create) with  'everyone else' is nothing but how much awareness is engaged, activated and shifted between different dimensions. Learning to astral project is the easiest way imo to sort of establish and work through to this whole universal world view.

The latest entity I saw appeared to be composed of light.. (I think this was a few weeks ago) Innitially I thought is was just another enity, but there were several differences with this one..

• It was levitating above me (grainy immage).
  
• I think it was taller than a grey, arms seemed longer, but the head and general shape was the same..
  
• I didn't see eyes, which suggested it was facing the ceiling..

I read somewhere, might have been one of your posts actually, that people have a light body.. Could this have been the case?

[Professor T]

constantine_337, on 07 December 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

Funny you should mention that. I just watched a program where a psychologist who does alien abduction hypnosis, stated that most abductees, after their experience, tend to get involved in music, poetry, art, etc.

Was having a read on some other sites and found this which appears to follow the same line of thinking. This artical involves some interesting characters in Metaphisical history, namely Alaster Crowley, who though I certainly don't like his methods, sure is someone to admire for some of the things he supposedly accomlished.. The artical investigates that these beings taught the arts of civilization to humans, are claimed to have originated the arts and cultures of Egypt, the mythology of the Greeks, and the Epic of Gilgamesh and summerian cultures.
There's some interesting sycronocities to this that appear to involve higher inteligents from Sirius..
It's an interesting read..
http://whofortedblog...estrial-medium/

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

Professor T, on 08 December 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

The latest entity I saw appeared to be composed of light.. (I think this was a few weeks ago) Innitially I thought is was just another enity, but there were several differences with this one..

• It was levitating above me (grainy immage).
  
• I think it was taller than a grey, arms seemed longer, but the head and general shape was the same..
  
• I didn't see eyes, which suggested it was facing the ceiling..

I read somewhere, might have been one of your posts actually, that people have a light body.. Could this have been the case?

Sorry i didn't see this before... I'm not sure if i said that or not, i tend to talk about the astral/light body as the energy body - if it was a light being,  it was from 5d at least.. do you think it could have been your own energy body ? if so that is another form of projection. I see my energy body/higherself in my 3rd eye sight/meditations.

[Professor T]

bLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 09 December 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Sorry i didn't see this before... I'm not sure if i said that or not, i tend to talk about the astral/light body as the energy body - if it was a light being,  it was from 5d at least.. do you think it could have been your own energy body ? if so that is another form of projection. I see my energy body/higherself in my 3rd eye sight/meditations.

Thanks..
I think it's a possibility. In the context of the artical or post I was reading a persons light body is 5th dimentional, and is basically just hanging around waiting for it's time to be occupied.. I wont go into it because it doesn't fit the OP. But if this is the case it might also explain some peoples alien experiences..

[Menial Task]

Interesting posts.  This subject matter has always intrigued me.