Opinions dont grow from within without external data and opinion. A parents job is to provide opinion data etc. A parents life experiences and wisdoms should be transfered to a child through stories converstions rules expectations etc., to give a foundation for their life. If I believe in certain ethics for good reasons then i want my childen to have the same ethics for the same good reasons, so i teach them, before they can develop less constructive ones.
yeah, i know that opinions dont grow on their own, which is why i would like any child of mine to have a good variety of life experiences and meet a variety of different people so they can grow their own. yeah, they can know my opinions, but know that they dont have to follow them and i will not think of them less if they choose not to. the thing is, there is no ethics and morals that come from me that couldnt come from religion, im already a pretty moral person where it actually matters and the only things religion adds are more insignificant rules that dont really affect your morality (like some religions dont allow you to eat and drink certain things, and of course prayer and stuff........and some teach homophobia and discrimination but honestly i dont think any child raised in my house could ever turn out that way).
Empathy, like love, has to be taught to children though demonstration or verbalisation. While humans a re capable of these things they are learned as a part of our socialisation. I agree that, more important than anything else, is a paren'ts role to teachh a child how to love and feel empathy
which doesnt have to come through religion. just cause you dont raise your child in a religion, doesnt mean you let them do whatever they want and let them be violent and do drugs. there are some religious parents who completely fail on the whole love and empathy thing and teach their children hate, so raising a child religious doesnt always mean its good.
Wha tis wrong or harmful? My parents would have kicked me out of home at about 15 if i had smoked, done drugs, etc at home because of the influence it would have had on my younger siblings I understood that then and agreed with them, but another child might not. Their values might conflict with their parents and the only solution is for them to leave. A family can't compromise its ethics and standards just to keep a child at home. That is not a religious viewpoint but a philosophical one.
but its a tiny little difference in opinions. yeah, if the teenager is violent, or is a drug addict or is doing something that does put the other children at risk, then yeah, they can go live somewhere else........but is religion really a big enough reason, the only difference is that they arent going to be coming to church on sundays. is it really a big deal? just cause theyre no longer following your religion, doesnt mean that theyre suddenly going to start killing people, doing drugs and having sex with anything that moves.
i dont see why not following your religion is a good reason to kick a child out of the house. not following your religion doesnt cause them to do anything evil. it wont cause any harm to the other kids. they may get exposure to another opinion, but is that really such a bad thing? any open minded parent (not of the super controlling fundie sort who shelters their child from any opinion other than their own) can easily explain to their children, and it could be a great learning moment.
kid: why doesnt _______ go to church?
parent: because she is atheist, which means she does not believe in god. i believe in god because of.....but not everyone does. other people have different opinions and thats okay.
parent: instead of going to church, she goes to mosque, because she is a muslim. there are many other different religions in the world, as some people choose to worship god in different ways to us. i follow christianity because it feels right to me, i read the bible and i believe it to be true.
see, a way for a child to both know the parent's opinions, but also understand that others dont share them. simple and to the point, and this is how i am going to teach my children about the differing opinions of the people of the world (not just religion, there are loads of different situations a talk like that could be useful). also teaching them appropriate ways to talk to other people about their beliefs and ask them questions without offending them is a good skill, its always good to be able to debate
I never mentioned fear of hell. Religious ethics and morality have little to do with hell, and more with how and why we should live our lives. Religious beliefs are philosophical beliefs and the ethics of religions are basic human ethics and moralities. Religion provides a powerful positive motivation for people to live in a constructive and loving way.
yes, religion does provide a motivation, and hell is of course not the only part of it, theres heaven as well, and also just thinking of what jesus would want them to do...its not the only way though, there are many different paths to follow in life that are also moral.
Hell was added as a fear factor to christianity by the cathiolic church many centuries ago It does more harm than good. Christ (the founder of christianity by default) teaches us how to live as individuals and as members of our society. It is not the only ethicla system around but it is a very constructive and effective one.
yeah, i dont agree with the whole "do this or you will go to hell" idea. fear can motivate people to do good, but its not a very good motivator, people shouldnt only do things because theyre afraid of the consequences (both religious "i dont want to go to hell" or consequences in this life "i dont want to go to jail"), but because they think it is the right thing to do. yes, following a religion is an effective way of teaching morals and ethics, theres loads of stories in various holy books about people who do the morally right thing to do and provide life lessons, but of course its not the only ethical system................but if you truly believe its not the only ethical system, why did you say above that a parent is justified in kicking their child out of the house if they didnt have the same religious opinions?