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#211    Beckys_Mom

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:17 PM

View PostSakari, on 14 December 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Guns are not the problem, people are.

Even if guns were illegal, they would be found by those that want them.

And back on topic........


This is very sad, I feel horrible not only for the families of the victims, and the victims. But the mother of the shooter ( what a thing to live with, not her fault at all ), and the staff of the School.


I keep saying the world is over populated, for a bunch of reasons. I keep saying we need a plague or a meteor....This makes me feel even stronger that way.

Sorry to the families, all of them involved in this......Sick ******* world we live in.

Indeed, people are the problem.............What boggles my mind  is what went through his mind? and why?   We may never know..  It's too much to take in

You think of those little children who most  likely couldn't wait to see Christmas...Their families  now in shock and suffering..   The families of the 6 adults who too were tragically taken.. it's truly a sad day for America   A lot of Americans are most likely deeply shocked and saddened ..

I then think  of the other children  who heard gun shots, all scared thinking they were next... it just floors you thinking of it

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:17 PM

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:19 PM

View PostSakari, on 14 December 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Guns are not the problem

with a gun you can kill someone without even approaching them. You can stand back and kill a whole class room of students. If Adam had a knife... I am sure he would have been jumped on and attacked by multiple people. Also he would have to approach these people in the first place and because this guy is obviously a [cat] he probably would get his ass beat trying to stab someone.

any weak helpless little scumbag can use a gun...

take a gun from the equation and yes these [cats] will still exist...

but the scenarios change greatly. IMO


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:20 PM

Last I read is Adam was the shooter, Ryan Lanzer is his older brother.

Ryan said "his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.”  Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder."

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:23 PM

View Poste u n O i a, on 14 December 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

with a gun you can kill someone without even approaching them. You can stand back and kill a whole class room of students. If Adam had a knife... I am sure he would have been jumped on and attacked by multiple people. Also he would have to approach these people in the first place and because this guy is obviously a [cat] he probably would get his ass beat trying to stab someone.

any weak helpless little scumbag can use a gun...

take a gun from the equation and yes these [cats] will still exist...

but the scenarios change greatly. IMO


Not necessarily true.


http://www.foxnews.c...-teacher-south/


If people want to use this as a pawn in their 2nd Amendment agenda... either for or against.... Just give it a few days.

Children are dead regardless of the manner or means.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:23 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 14 December 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

Indeed, people are the problem.............What boggles my mind  is what went through his mind? and why?   We may never know..  It's too much to take in

You think of those little children who most  likely couldn't wait to see Christmas...Their families  now in shock and suffering..   The families of the 6 adults who too were tragically taken.. it's truly a sad day for America   A lot of Americans are most likely deeply shocked and saddened ..

I then think  of the other children  who heard gun shots, all scared thinking they were next... it just floors you thinking of it


Beckys mom, please do not take this wrong.....

I for one am not shocked. I would not be shocked if this happened anywhere in the world.

I hate to say it, ( I all ready did ).....Nothing surprises me anymore. If I were religious, I would be saying the end is near. Since I am not, I just say what I have been, we have to many people on this planet, and we are broken.


It sucks, it is sad....And what is worst, this will not be the last time something like this will happen.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:24 PM

View PostComfortableWithCorpses, on 14 December 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

Not necessarily true.


http://www.foxnews.c...-teacher-south/


If people want to use this as a pawn in their 2nd Amendment agenda... either for or against.... Just give it a few days.

Children are dead regardless of the manner or means.




Thats what I said / say.....    :nw:


Lets not make this a debate on this topic......( not you, .......others )

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:27 PM

View PostComfortableWithCorpses, on 14 December 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

Not necessarily true.


http://www.foxnews.c...-teacher-south/


If people want to use this as a pawn in their 2nd Amendment agenda... either for or against.... Just give it a few days.

Children are dead regardless of the manner or means.

0 children dead. Thats the entire point. Guns are simply too deadly. Evil will always exist, but guns make its power exponentially greater.

By the way, the founding fathers likely had no way of knowing how powerful and cheap firearms would get.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:27 PM

View PostSakari, on 14 December 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

Beckys mom, please do not take this wrong.....

I for one am not shocked. I would not be shocked if this happened anywhere in the world.

I hate to say it, ( I all ready did ).....Nothing surprises me anymore. If I were religious, I would be saying the end is near. Since I am not, I just say what I have been, we have to many people on this planet, and we are broken.


It sucks, it is sad....And what is worst, this will not be the last time something like this will happen.

I understand you.. I on the other hand   grew up in a country ( over 30 years ) filled with violence, shootings and bombing everywhere....... I still remain shocked to hear ANY given story like this one.. It is so very sad....

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 14 December 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

Indeed, people are the problem.............What boggles my mind  is what went through his mind? and why?   We may never know..  It's too much to take in

You think of those little children who most  likely couldn't wait to see Christmas...Their families  now in shock and suffering..   The families of the 6 adults who too were tragically taken.. it's truly a sad day for America   A lot of Americans are most likely deeply shocked and saddened ..

I then think  of the other children  who heard gun shots, all scared thinking they were next... it just floors you thinking of it

The whole town is destroyed.  They will not recover from this.  This is like when Columbine happened. Or TWA flight 800.  It is horrible.   Forever Christmas will be ruined in this town.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:30 PM

View PostSakari, on 14 December 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Guns are not the problem, people are.

Even if guns were illegal, they would be found by those that want them.


I have to disagree. People AND easy access to deadly weapons are the problem. If a country like Japan with 150 million people can effectively prevent guns from entering society, so can the U.S. It's just a matter of willpower.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:32 PM

View PostCassea, on 14 December 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

The whole town is destroyed.  They will not recover from this.  This is like when Columbine happened. Or TWA flight 800.  It is horrible.   Forever Christmas will be ruined in this town.

Just kills me to think of the presents hiding in the closet. wtf......


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:33 PM

View PostMaizer, on 14 December 2012 - 10:30 PM, said:

I have to disagree. People AND easy access to deadly weapons are the problem. If a country like Japan with 150 million people can effectively prevent guns from entering society, so can the U.S. It's just a matter of willpower.


Dude,

This topic is not about a gun or no gun debate......Kids died for Christ Sake!!!!!!

Make a new topic, and quit using this news for a gun debate......Sick, very sick.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:33 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 14 December 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

No links yet. Two gun men entered an elementary school in sandy hook Connecticut,and opened fire.
One child casualty .Condition Unk .Entire Connecticut school system on lock down.

Yet another shooter. Whats the total this year?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different outcome. Its time the US acknowledged its society is dysfunctional and did something about it.

I propose psychological screening during the development years of childhood to identify and treat those children with personality disorders (seeing as this is when the damage is most likely to be done).


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:34 PM

View PostSakari, on 14 December 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Dude,

This topic is not about a gun or no gun debate......Kids died for Christ Sake!!!!!!

Make a new topic, and quit using this news for a gun debate......Sick, very sick.

Don't imagine for a second I'm not as sick as you are. You're the one who implied people are the problem not guns. Look in the mirror yourself.





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