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Builders bulldoze Mayan pyramid in Belize


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#31    paperdyer

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:42 PM

View PostBavarian Raven, on 14 May 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

And you watch the company that did this will probably only get a minor fine :/

The construction company should be buried in what's left of the ruins with gravel stones from the road they paved.


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:26 PM

Here in the U.S. it would have been to erect a Wal-Mart.


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 09:02 PM

Wow that commit by "Zalanox" ! wOW ! DID HE ,SHE WHAT THE HECK EVER THEY MAYBE aRRE YOU REAL?
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 10:11 PM

woooooooooooooooow... physically ill at the thought of this


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 10:46 PM

In Hawai'i construction, no matter how much it costs, will come to a screeching halt if anything from ancient times is found, especially bones of the ancestors.

There are hundreds if not thousands of altars (Heiau) built by the ancient Hawai'ians and these are very important to the native Hawai'ian community.  They are not pyramids or anything fancy like that but these spots were and still are sacred areas.  People still leave offerings to the various gods they believe in.  There is no way ever something like this would happen, they wouldn't even be able to get close to a site with that kind of equipment.

We actually did have an incident where the bones of ancient Hawai'ians were found at the site of a new Walmart and that wreaked total havoc.  It ultimately got built but I think they had to pay to have the bones relocated and ceremonies had to be performed.  

Conflicts between past and present occur all the time here; one of the most recent where petroglyphs were vandalized and the suspects were thought to be photographers that wanted to make the petroglyphs stand out more.  Idiots.

I don't have to believe in the ancient spirituality to respect the importance of these things, to know that the antiquities of a culture help us to understand where we came from and sometimes where we are going.

When those construction people, from the owners who ok'd it to the driver who carried out the infraction, destroyed the mound they disrespected the culture, the people and the ancients associated with the area.  It was complete and utter disregard for their history and that is sad.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 11:02 PM

View PostZalanox, on 14 May 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

So they tore down some pos lump in the ground built by a bunch of idiots who believed in gods and sacrificed people who lost at games. Why is this upsetting people?

We don't have to preserve every damn thing our ancestors touched.
Well maybe not in your case. Yours are still swinging through the trees. But history gives meaning to humanity from where they came from and what they accomplished. Stupid greedy and sad. They should be fined heftily for desacrating a protected site.


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 11:37 PM

View PostLava_Lady, on 15 May 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

In Hawai'i construction, no matter how much it costs, will come to a screeching halt if anything from ancient times is found, especially bones of the ancestors.

There are hundreds if not thousands of altars (Heiau) built by the ancient Hawai'ians and these are very important to the native Hawai'ian community.  They are not pyramids or anything fancy like that but these spots were and still are sacred areas.  People still leave offerings to the various gods they believe in.  There is no way ever something like this would happen, they wouldn't even be able to get close to a site with that kind of equipment.

We actually did have an incident where the bones of ancient Hawai'ians were found at the site of a new Walmart and that wreaked total havoc.  It ultimately got built but I think they had to pay to have the bones relocated and ceremonies had to be performed.  

Conflicts between past and present occur all the time here; one of the most recent where petroglyphs were vandalized and the suspects were thought to be photographers that wanted to make the petroglyphs stand out more.  Idiots.

I don't have to believe in the ancient spirituality to respect the importance of these things, to know that the antiquities of a culture help us to understand where we came from and sometimes where we are going.

When those construction people, from the owners who ok'd it to the driver who carried out the infraction, destroyed the mound they disrespected the culture, the people and the ancients associated with the area.  It was complete and utter disregard for their history and that is sad.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:45 AM

That is f*&^%ing disgusting.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:52 AM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 15 May 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

Great one Lava Lady ! My brother-n-Law Lives on the Big-Island and has for over Fifty years ,When we were there two years ago he took us to camp on privet land north of the Air port on a beach with a Royal Bath pool that was dug right into the Lava,and is half salt water&half fresh water from the Hills.  Its really a Honor to get to see and actually swim in these places. THe Beach alone is such a Dream Beach ! Only accessed by 4-wheel or sea !
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You are lucky!  I don't know a quarter of what's on the Big Island, hardly get out there and for us islanders it's just such a long damn drive to get across that island... :)  Anything over an hour (the usual transit time on O'ahu and only due to traffic) is miserable for us.

I will be going out to the Kona side soon though.  Can't wait... :)

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:49 AM

Nothing lasts forever.

Edited by rustygh, 16 May 2013 - 02:56 AM.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:26 AM

View Postrustygh, on 16 May 2013 - 02:49 AM, said:

Nothing lasts forever.


Not in nature, no.  But a bulldozer is preventable.

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 09:20 AM

View PostLava_Lady, on 15 May 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

In Hawai'i construction, no matter how much it costs, will come to a screeching halt if anything from ancient times is found, especially bones of the ancestors.
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It was complete and utter disregard for their history and that is sad.
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unfortunately Lady, this kind of thing happens all the time over here. we've lost hundreds of ancient sites to industry. a few years ago we lost a group of stone circles to a quarry company, despite dedicated protests, campaigns by local residents that an alternative site was a better prospect, and all to no avail. archeologists were allowed two weeks to excavate & document the site, then it was destroyed, after 4000yrs of doing no-one any harm. the thornborough henges near to me are in danger of being lost to a gypsum mine, ruining a major prehistoric site when the whole area is built on gypsum and could be mined elsewhere.
even stonehenge has a road built through it, that campaigners have been trying for decades to have removed, but govt. doesn't deem this most famous of sites as being worth the cost.
sad indeed.

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:58 PM

omg, so sad....... why???? damn you!!


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:42 PM

Wow... They can build a mcdonalds... History is pretty cheap to some


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:14 PM

Is the government of Belize going to stand for this?





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