Br Cornelius, on 19 January 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:
The EU bought into the same NeoLiberal fantasy as the rest of the ****ed world, it don't work so the economy is ****ed. Any country or group of countries which follows the idea that the market is a magical self rectifying entity (the new secular theology) will see its economy lurch from boom to bust with a tiny fraction of the population who are sufficiently ahead of the curve lapping up all the worlds wealth as they anticipate/precipitate those very boom bust cycles.
The richest people in the world have got considerably richer over the last 6years. Its like a one way vacuum cleaner for real productivity and like godzilla rampaging across the lives of whole nations.
The frank reality is that were all in the **** heap together whether we are in or out of the EU. The real question is - how boyant is little old UK all by itself. Its a question of insulating yourself from the rising tide of crap.
Br Cornelius
After reading your post about Failed NeoLiberalism, to which you said you agreed with the piece you posted. it now seems you have seen the error. its almost as if you have stumbled over the truth. am surprised its taken you this long. - anyway, never mind that.
Truth is were not all in a heap of **** together as you seem to think. - the insular inward looking europhiles are their own worst enemy, the only ones who are in dire straits and IN IT TOGETHER are the EU countries who have lumbered themselves with the Euro Currency. signing their futures over to a foreign power.
One worrying aspect of the EU is how very rapidly their flagship project, the Euro, has gotten into trouble. Most currencies tick over quite happily for centuries; even Imperial Rome under a succession of certifiable loonies, a low-productivity slave economy and the fiscal policies from hell took centuries to debase its currency into the ground. Howling barbarians like the Dark Age English kingdoms managed to keep going for over a thousand years on primitive monarchism and didn't c*** up. Even the UK Labour Party in the seventies, handicapped by trades union influences and the approximate intelligence of a decomposing turd, only needed the one bail-out from the IMF.
But look at the Euro, designed by the finest minds on a continent (along with the French) and bankrolled by the industrial might of Germany; there surely was a currency that was destined for the long run? Well, we've had a decade of use out of it, and now the whole thing seems to be rolling along under inertia and pretty much nothing else. A lot of nations seem all of a sudden to have decided to take inventories of their physical gold holdings (pretty easy for us, after Gordon Brown flogged a lot of it) and ship it back to home territory, and quite a few other little things seem to be happening too.
Several of the "European partners" have quietly reinstated border controls, especially where shiftless Eastern Europeans are concerned. Eurocrats seem to have gotten suddenly even more greedy than before, as if to glom onto one last bonanza before the party finishes. Most European governments have become suddenly tax-hungry all of a sudden, and are cracking down on tax evasion even to the point of treating with criminal data-thieves to obtain info on defaulters (quite how this works, when the veracity of such info cannot be trusted, I really do not know).
Basically the European Experiment is dying on its feet, and everyone (with the exception of Cameron) seems to be preparing for the end of the fun, Let us leave now, and avoid the rush later.
so without worrying how buoyant is the UK?. the Question should be how buoyant is the EU/Euro which as no track record. - But as for the UK which, you seem to be concerned about - as far as buoyancy goes she's as buoyant as she's ever been over the centuries still using the same currency and institutions, tried and tested is the answer. ship shape and bristol fashion. that is why we can see a future outside of a failed EU. the truth is why should we stay aboard the; 'ship EU Titanic' furiously hand pumping out water with the other 26 crew members. when we could launch the lifeboat and see who follows. those who want to go down with the ship do so - of their own accord.
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