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MichaelW, on 09 February 2013 - 06:44 AM, said:

I know what an AR-15 is. But you can't tell me that weapons such as a Bushmaster ACR or AK-47, isn't an assault rifle "because it's not military issue"? And how can they be hard to obtain when you can buy them directly from the manufacturer through approved gun stores after filling out the right paperwork? And that's for full auto assault rifles also. And that's before we get to informal trades with no papers or background checks or anything at all?



Difference being, there are more guns in the US than there are cars that can do 200 mph.

Maybe someone else can explain better. Not just anyone can go and buy a machine gun. They really aren't an issue here and the ones that are an issue are illegal anyways. How do you propose to stop criminal activity? Concern yourself with that and not the rights and abilities of American citizens and wether or not we need what we can have.

Uhm... A car needs to go 200 for you to consider it fast? You must race for a living. There are less cars and more negative car statistics compared to gun stats. Once again it sounds like you want to put a limit on what you deem acceptable such as the amount of guns we can have. Again,this is not to each according to his needs. This is to each according to what he feels like pursuing even if it's a thousand of something.

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-Mr_Fess-, on 09 February 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:

Maybe someone else can explain better. Not just anyone can go and buy a machine gun. They really aren't an issue here and the ones that are an issue are illegal anyways. How do you propose to stop criminal activity? Concern yourself with that and not the rights and abilities of American citizens and wether or not we need what we can have.

Uhm... A car needs to go 200 for you to consider it fast? You must race for a living. There are less cars and more negative car statistics compared to gun stats. Once again it sounds like you want to put a limit on what you deem acceptable such as the amount of guns we can have. Again,this is not to each according to his needs. This is to each according to what he feels like pursuing even if it's a thousand of something.

Criminal activity is stopped, by the most part, by not making it economically viable. And if you mean gun criminality,that would be by drying out the grey and black market.

[MichaelW]

-Mr_Fess-, on 09 February 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:

They really aren't an issue here and the ones that are an issue are illegal anyways. How do you propose to stop criminal activity?

By having gun stores take in guns that people don't want anymore. That way, a licenced gun seller can resell the gun onto someone and go through the same procedures as if they were selling a new gun to someone.l

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MichaelW, on 09 February 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

By having gun stores take in guns that people don't want anymore. That way, a licenced gun seller can resell the gun onto someone and go through the same procedures as if they were selling a new gun to someone.l

That's already something people can do. It's a good thing bit it doesn't solve the problem.

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Yamato, on 05 February 2013 - 09:00 AM, said:

after losing yet another gun control debate.

It makes me sick!" he exclaims as he crumples up his interview notes and throws them across his desk in the direction of his guest Scottie Hughes.



Still, a snippy Piers Morgan, desperately nursing his flagging ratings on his prime time show, battles on in his bizarre nearly-possessed quest to infringe on America's right to bear arms:

“The best thing about Alex Jones is that 8 million people watched that video on YouTube.  I would suggest it’s the smartest booking we’ve ever made. The attention that interview got exploded this issue back onto the agenda for the entire week leading up to what Obama did today.”

“The President of the United States espoused exactly what I’ve been saying for the last five weeks (referring to Obama's ban on "assault" rifles).  No one can tell me we haven’t had an influence.”

Piers Morgan hates AR-15s and he'll seemingly stop at nothing to remove them from all homes in the United States.

Can we just start ignoring this douche hat?  His show sucks and has been in freefall since he took it over from Larry King.

He's just latched onto this gun control thing because he thinks it might save his job.

[Gummug]

QuiteContrary, on 05 February 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

I had wondered if it was just me who thinks this guy asks dumb/silly/pointless interview questions.
Watched him interview friends of ours on CNN.

I wish I could tell you QC but I never watch him. It seems as if I'm not missing much, though.

[MichaelW]

-Mr_Fess-, on 10 February 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

That's already something people can do. It's a good thing bit it doesn't solve the problem.

But it's not mandatory. That's the point that I was getting at. Making giving unwanted or for sale guns to licenced brokers and dealers would stop people simply buying guns off people in street deals like one would do with drugs.

[Walter White]

I can't stand the man, I sympathise with his stance but he is just a horrible person.  I want to be as reasonable as possible but I can't hide my bias, which is a position of complete and utter contempt for him.

This whole thing is about him, as cynical as that sounds.

[shaddow134]

He acts like a spoilt child,who stamps when he can't get his way.He also has a rather annoying habit of asking a question then talking over his guests when they try to answer.


The pro gun lobby have destroyed him,so many times.Having listened to them myself for the last few weeks,they have actually changed my opinion and I admit that I now lean more towards the pro gun lobby myself.

Edited by shaddow134, 11 February 2013 - 01:58 AM.

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shaddow134, on 11 February 2013 - 01:57 AM, said:

He acts like a spoilt child,who stamps when he can't get his way.He also has a rather annoying habit of asking a question then talking over his guests when they try to answer.


The pro gun lobby have destroyed him,so many times.Having listened to them myself for the last few weeks,they have actually changed my opinion and I admit that I now lean more towards the pro gun lobby myself.

We don't hear that too often. What exactly changed your mind?

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-Mr_Fess-, on 11 February 2013 - 02:28 AM, said:

We don't hear that too often. What exactly changed your mind?

The fact that I now realise that it's not the Gun that is the issue but the person holding it and the Video I think you put up the other day (my cold dead hands).A persons freedom and personal choice is to be defended at all costs.

I also have to admit that Ted Nugent actually finally swayed me.Piers should just give it up now and move on because everytime he opens his mouth he just drives another nail into his coffin.

[CrimsonKing]

Well people like piers finally swayed me to join the nra last week,never saw any point in it before now.Always thought this would never become this big of an issue.Thanks piers send us some more members!

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shaddow134, on 11 February 2013 - 03:17 AM, said:

The fact that I now realise that it's not the Gun that is the issue but the person holding it and the Video I think you put up the other day (my cold dead hands).A persons freedom and personal choice is to be defended at all costs.

I also have to admit that Ted Nugent actually finally swayed me.Piers should just give it up now and move on because everytime he opens his mouth he just drives another nail into his coffin.

I'm not sure how far in the other direction you were but that's really awesome and the fact that I had a little something to do with it is that much better. It's vindicating.