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Is Islam the religion of peace?


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#1    Alan McDougall

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:15 AM

Two question, both for Muslims members on the forum and those of different faiths or even Atheists are welcome to comment and contribute. .

Note this is a sensitive subject so lets keep it to the topic and avoid personal rants and insults. The Muslims in my community, are nice peaceful friendly people, so there is no need to address this thread from a negative position, stick to the truth!

I personally follow no religion dogma or belong to any organised religious mostly because I am a;'non-conformant.

1) Is Islam a religion of peace?

2) Are Muslims peaceful people because of the teaching of the Koran/Qu'ran?

You views and comments please!.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:21 AM

Once upon a time maybe.
But now ... too many atrocities. Rather like Christianity really.
Muslims and Christians can be great and saintly people, but the collective?


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:04 PM

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1. no
2.  no

Any religion that demands death for disrespecting their guru or "sacred" book is not a peaceful.   So it is not conducive for making people peaceful.   IMO

Edited by GreenmansGod, 08 June 2014 - 05:09 PM.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:06 PM

2x no.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:10 PM

What is the punishment for apostasy?


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:12 PM

Those I know are as peaceful and moral as any other person I have met.  Those I hear about on the news headlines, don't resemble those I personally know one little bit.

There is alot of anger in the world and alot of hate.  As soon as we figure out why people use their anger and hate to make their decisions for them, we can finally have peace, regardless of religion.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:14 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 08 June 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

What is the punishment for apostasy?
Yes, I have been reading about that too, it is very sad.  It is not the same crime or punishment in all parts of the world though.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:32 PM

As a Muslim, there is a lot of misunderstandings of what peace means according to a muslim view. Of course there are some Quranic verse that viewed as hate and war against non-muslims but the fact that thoses verses are about defence strategy and they all came in the context of the attack of infidels at the time of the prophet and the consequences were a call of war against them which is portrayed lately as violence in our time.

Yeah, I am sure that my religion is a religion of peace as it is. Our dialogue always begins by "salam" which means "peace".

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:41 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 08 June 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

What is the punishment for apostasy?

Do you have any basic knowledge of the saying of the muslim scholars ( from different madahib) about the issue of apostacy ?

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 06:40 PM

History suggests that "religion of peace" is an oxymoron (regardless of which religion it is applied to).

“When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That’s my religion.” – Abraham Lincoln

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 06:45 PM

No and No. I won't every trust another religion so long as I live on this planet. Religion like government, are breeding grounds for the power mad and corrupt.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 08:44 PM

View PostTheLionsHunter, on 08 June 2014 - 05:41 PM, said:

Do you have any basic knowledge of the saying of the muslim scholars ( from different madahib) about the issue of apostacy ?

Usually when people answer a question with a question it is because they are trying to deny the truth.

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.[1] The majority of Muslim scholars hold to the traditional view that apostasy is punishable by death or imprisonment until repentance, at least for adult men of sound mind.
http://en.wikipedia....ostasy_in_Islam


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 08:58 PM

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No and no and sharia law has no place in the west.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:15 PM

View PostGreenmansGod, on 08 June 2014 - 08:44 PM, said:

Usually when people answer a question with a question it is because they are trying to deny the truth.

No, not always. when I answer by question, I was sure that you don't know the subject only from two sources "media, wikipedia" and I was right. This kind of question is to have an answer that you don't know the subject, you only hear some nioses about it.

Wikipedia is not relaible source, and it only says that "the majority of scholars " without sighting that this subject is under a debate between muslims therselves. well IN Quran there is no mention of the punishment of apostacy .

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:22 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 08 June 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

No and no and sharia law has no place in the west.

sharia law is advancing in the west more than what you think, say No from your chair.

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