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#166    DONTEATUS

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 05:17 PM

Its a big question there Badeskov`s power as we know it is just that our power & our power terminology as such. What If theres energy out there we know nothing of ?
Its a blind mind that thinks to stop the process of this grand search for knowledge. One thing for sure, I know your In the batch of explorers that keep that open mind and keep the search on.
ITs quite amazing that so many dont see the possibilities in front of us.
Mac-G is for sure one that Look`s listens,replies and believes . THeres some comfort in konwing that it takes all kinds to make our world go around.
I`ll Stick with the facts and proof like you. But How do I explain the Fact I did See a machine,not an aberration Not A gas cloud,not a U.S. made secret aircraft,Not a Dragon.OR DUCK,But A machine solid and tangible Fly around my aircraft in and out of sight in just a few seconds ?
Now THat gets to live with me forever!
I cant wait to get the Facts on that one ! Maybe Some day ?
Cheer`s and Always Like your post ! I`ll See you at the U/M party Lift off !

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 04:23 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 09 September 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Go back to your primary sources, at least the ones that are publicly available today:
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Not exactly what I asked for, but thats my fault, I should had been more specific.
Anyway, there would be no problem to find actual line in radar printouts at 0226 "... return in JL1628's10 o'clock position at 8 miles." I'm sure you can do it. Or...?

Arguing with fool is like playing chess with pigeon: he will scatter pieces, peck King's crown, crap on bishop, and fly away bragging how he won the game... (heard once, author unknown).
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:07 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 11 September 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

Not exactly what I asked for, but thats my fault, I should had been more specific.
Anyway, there would be no problem to find actual line in radar printouts at 0226 "... return in JL1628's10 o'clock position at 8 miles." I'm sure you can do it. Or...?

It's always like this with you guys.  You always say that I refuse to answer your questions even when I go out of my way to do so.  I get very sick of that.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:31 PM

View PostHorus Christos, on 08 September 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Nice try BMK, but as you know its hard to argue with people who "know" they are right and can prove it by explaining that any facts presented to refute their "gut feelings" are part of a governmental cover-up.  They are something like religious fanatics..you can't prove to them that they are wrong because they simply refuse to acknowledge the possibility that they can be wrong. It must be nice to be so narrow-minded so as to be convinced that you can never be wrong (mmmm...that reminds me of my ex, who has never admitted to being wrong in her life either)
really? cuz it actually reminds me of you


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:04 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 11 September 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

It's always like this with you guys.  You always say that I refuse to answer your questions even when I go out of my way to do so.  I get very sick of that.
So, can you bring actual line from actual radar printouts indicating 10 o'clock and 8 miles?

Arguing with fool is like playing chess with pigeon: he will scatter pieces, peck King's crown, crap on bishop, and fly away bragging how he won the game... (heard once, author unknown).
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:49 PM

View PostJGirl, on 11 September 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

really? cuz it actually reminds me of you

Reminds me of a lot of the so-called 'skeptics;.

View Postbmk1245, on 11 September 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

So, can you bring actual line from actual radar printouts indicating 10 o'clock and 8 miles?

Why, so you can insult me some more and make fun of me?  I've had enough of that.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:04 PM

Say, BMK, why don't you tell them how Phil Klass said that the UFO was really Jupiter and Mars, even though there weren't even in that part of the sky!  Then they issued a second "explanation".  Can you blame people on our side for hating "skeptics"?  They do this all the time.

If that FAA guy hadn't come forward, no doubt one of these phony "explanations" would have stuck.

"The FAA conducted an investigation of the incident, and did not issue its final report until March 5. CSICOP's (Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal)Phil Klass issued a premature statement on January 22 claiming that the UFOs were the planets Jupiter and Mars - an impossible solution because the UFO was seen in a part of the sky opposite the position of these planets and because the UFOs moved from positions one above the other to side by side. CSICOP later issued a second explanation that the UFO was light reflecting off of clouds of ice crystals - also unlikely because the sky was clear at the reported altitude of the UFO. The FAA attributed the radar images received by ground radar to a "split radar return from the JAL Boeing 747."

http://www.google.co...29,r:2,s:0,i:82


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:08 PM

As Teruchi himself said:

"I thought it would be impossible to find anything on an aircraft radar if a large ground radar did not show anything, but I judged the distance of the object visually and it was not very far. I set the digital weather radar distance to 20 (nautical) miles, radar angle to horizon (i.e., no depression angle). There it was on the screen. A large green and round object had appeared at 7 or 8 miles (13 km to 15 km) away, where the direction of the object was. We reported to Anchorage center that our radar caught the object within 7 or 8 miles in the 10 o'clock position. We asked them if they could catch it on ground radar but it did not seem they could catch it at all

At 5:25:45, after spending two minutes looking, the military radar at Elmendorf Regional Operational Control Center also picked up something. The ROCC radar controller reported back to the AARTCC that he was getting some "surge primary return." By this he meant an occasional radar echo unaccompanied by a transponder signal."

So which radar tracks should I try to get, the one from the plane or the military radar on the ground?


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:15 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 11 September 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

[Why, so you can insult me some more and make fun of me?  I've had enough of that.
So, you can't show "... return in JL1628's10 o'clock position at 8 miles." on radar printouts available freely?
What a shock :w00t:

Arguing with fool is like playing chess with pigeon: he will scatter pieces, peck King's crown, crap on bishop, and fly away bragging how he won the game... (heard once, author unknown).
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:18 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 11 September 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

So, you can't show "... return in JL1628's10 o'clock position at 8 miles." on radar printouts available freely?
What a shock :w00t:

How many radars picked it up?  Why don't you tell them that?  Tell the truth for once!  Tell them!

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:20 PM

Tell the truth for once in your life, BMK. How many radars detected this UFO?  How many?  I'm sure you have an "explanation" for all of it, but at least report this case honestly as it actually unfolded.

I demand that you tell the truth!


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:27 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 11 September 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

Say, BMK, why don't you tell them how Phil Klass said that the UFO was really Jupiter and Mars, even though there weren't even in that part of the sky!  Then they issued a second "explanation".  Can you blame people on our side for hating "skeptics"?  They do this all the time.

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View PostTheMacGuffin, on 11 September 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

As Teruchi himself said:

"I thought it would be impossible to find anything on an aircraft radar if a large ground radar did not show anything, but I judged the distance of the object visually and it was not very far. I set the digital weather radar distance to 20 (nautical) miles, radar angle to horizon (i.e., no depression angle). There it was on the screen. A large green and round object had appeared at 7 or 8 miles (13 km to 15 km) away, where the direction of the object was. We reported to Anchorage center that our radar caught the object within 7 or 8 miles in the 10 o'clock position. We asked them if they could catch it on ground radar but it did not seem they could catch it at all

At 5:25:45, after spending two minutes looking, the military radar at Elmendorf Regional Operational Control Center also picked up something. The ROCC radar controller reported back to the AARTCC that he was getting some "surge primary return." By this he meant an occasional radar echo unaccompanied by a transponder signal."

So which radar tracks should I try to get, the one from the plane or the military radar on the ground?
Ground radar.

Arguing with fool is like playing chess with pigeon: he will scatter pieces, peck King's crown, crap on bishop, and fly away bragging how he won the game... (heard once, author unknown).
Zhoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! Oh, that was quick. Do I get another? Sorry, Mate. That's your lot. Basil Fawlty (John Cleese).

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:31 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 11 September 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

How many radars picked it up?  Why don't you tell them that?  Tell the truth for once!  Tell them!

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You are the one in the know, not me.
So, how many ground radars, and which radars (their locations)?


Honestly, you are throwing same garbage many of us seen m+n+z+v+y+z times. Bring something new.

O, I have an idea: you can invite Mr. Callahan, who was waving pack of papers in front of audience in few "circuses" (how many years ago that was, huh? and still zip/nada/zero/zilch...) He, being "honest" would not have problems bringing those printouts proving, allegedly, his points here for everybody to see.

Edited by bmk1245, 11 September 2012 - 08:39 PM.

Arguing with fool is like playing chess with pigeon: he will scatter pieces, peck King's crown, crap on bishop, and fly away bragging how he won the game... (heard once, author unknown).
Zhoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! Oh, that was quick. Do I get another? Sorry, Mate. That's your lot. Basil Fawlty (John Cleese).

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:31 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 11 September 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Ground radar.

None of your dumb face palms this time.  Tell then the truth about what really happened.  Don't tell them about me, but what was reported in this UFO sighting--actually three different UFOs.

Tell the truth about it for once.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 11 September 2012 - 08:49 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:41 PM

As you see on the diagram, one of them was the Elmendorf (EDF) Regional Operational Control Center (ROCC), and another was the civilian Anchorage Air Traffic Control Center (AARTCC)

By the way, the smaller UFOs also interfered with the radio transmissions between the plane and the air traffic control center.


"The VHF communications, both in transmitting and receiving, were extremely difficult for 10 to 15 minutes while the little ships came close to us and often interefered with communication and Anchorage Center.  However, communication conditions became good as soon as the ships left us.  There were no abnormalities in the equipment of the aircraft."(2)  When he was interviewed the captain was asked to describe the type of interference he heard.  He described the interference as "some kind of, like, ah, jamming...it wasjust a noise, sounded like zaa, zaa."(1)  The communications capability was,he said, two out of five possible levels (5,4,3,2,1) with five being perfectly clear.(1) Normally communications with a plane in that area would be good."

http://www.google.co...V3E2uT1jTMLcbEA

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 11 September 2012 - 08:42 PM.







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