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Obama says reject those who warn of Tyranny


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#106    preacherman76

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:18 AM

Wow this is a great thread guys. Many have represented very well what this government was founded on. Great job.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:40 AM

MMMMM I love the smell of complete BULLSPIT in the morning dont you guys?

Simple enough, raise taxes on Cigarettes cause they are bad for our health.. Then he gets caught smoking a cigarette shortly after.
Raising taxes had nothing to do with the sudden inflation in the price cigarettes at all right?

Makes you wonder, if he just so happened to help his buddies over @ big tobacco... what else has he done and not been caught doing?

This video shows him clearly and concisely saying that you must trust government, how can we trust government when people are helping their big corporation buddies and screwing over everyone else?

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Edited by xFelix, 14 May 2013 - 11:44 AM.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:20 PM

View PostxFelix, on 14 May 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

MMMMM I love the smell of complete BULLSPIT in the morning dont you guys?

Simple enough, raise taxes on Cigarettes cause they are bad for our health.. Then he gets caught smoking a cigarette shortly after.
Raising taxes had nothing to do with the sudden inflation in the price cigarettes at all right?

Makes you wonder, if he just so happened to help his buddies over @ big tobacco... what else has he done and not been caught doing?

This video shows him clearly and concisely saying that you must trust government, how can we trust government when people are helping their big corporation buddies and screwing over everyone else?

The end.

You do realize that companies don't get the tax monies right? Taxes go to the government.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:45 PM

View PostBama13, on 14 May 2013 - 06:20 PM, said:



You do realize that companies don't get the tax monies right? Taxes go to the government.

Unless they get a tax incentive.  Like their doing in new york state right now.  I believe they raised taxes this year.  Now we are hearing about all the tax incentives for companies in the state.  I live in texas.  The companies get to raise their prices to cover the taxes their not paying.  The politicians get to cry foul.  The people get to pay for the higher taxes.  This is part of inflation. The other part comes from minimum wage inceases.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:45 PM

Those who protest too much, are only protesting what they are...

A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death. - Albert Einstein

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:33 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 14 May 2013 - 04:51 AM, said:

MSNBC is not as good in the morning than in the evening.



You know that MSNBC's evening lineup is not news, but pure editorial, right?


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:52 PM

View PostBama13, on 14 May 2013 - 06:20 PM, said:

You do realize that companies don't get the tax monies right? Taxes go to the government.

No instead, they get to inflate their prices and claim that it is due to taxes.

When cigarette taxes go up 1%, they add almost a dollar to the price of the pack, and then you pay taxes...

You really think a 1% increase in taxes entails a 15% or more increase in  total price?

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:40 PM

View PostxFelix, on 14 May 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

No instead, they get to inflate their prices and claim that it is due to taxes.

When cigarette taxes go up 1%, they add almost a dollar to the price of the pack, and then you pay taxes...

You really think a 1% increase in taxes entails a 15% or more increase in  total price?
Ask yourself who the real bad guys are though. The ones imposing tax after tax or the ones who figure out a way to keep up with the taxes? If it weren't for the imposers the keeper uppers wouldn't have to keep up and even when they do the consumer has the final say if it has gone too far and businesses will listen to consumers. The imposers won't.

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