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Texas FORMALLY requests secession


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#226    cormac mac airt

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:51 PM

View PostBama13, on 16 November 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

When I look at the Articles I see that it is titled: "Articles of confederation and perpetual union between the states of New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island, and Providence plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia."

Notice the word "states", "North Carolina", and "Rhode Island, and Providence plantations". It looks, from the terminology, like they were called states before they ratified the Constitution.

Regardless they were differences between the northern "wahtevers" and the southern "whatevers". The differences got worse and led to the ACW. But they existed during the Constitutional Convention.

Sounds like you ought to take your complaint up with the states involved since it was their decision, not mine, on when they placed the dates they achieved Statehood.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:11 PM

View PostLilly, on 14 November 2012 - 02:31 AM, said:

Looks like there might be a bit of a backlash to all this secession stuff:


https://petitions.wh...e-them/ZbMjcwPf
"Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported."

Deported where exactly? This petition wasn't well thought out.

Edited by Likely Guy, 16 November 2012 - 09:18 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

View PostLikely Guy, on 16 November 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

"Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported."Deported where exactly?

If you mean it, you can file a petition to the effect here

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:24 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 16 November 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

If you mean it, you can file a petition to the effect here
A petition from a non-American?


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:31 PM

View PostLikely Guy, on 16 November 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

A petition from a non-American?

Guess that would not work, sorry.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:09 AM

An oldie but a goody.  




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Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:11 AM

Get it?! Cause the South is still the Confederacy! Oh the hijinx.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:07 PM

Marching Through Georgia, one more time!




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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:12 PM

View PostHasina, on 14 November 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

Excuse me? Can we not use the term 'Confederate States'? First, it no longer exists, second, they were whining about 'states rights' while just wanting to keep slaves (while today it's a minority of political whiners because their guy didn't win~), third, it's generalizing an entire part of US as grey coat wearing, bigoted racists, which I can assure you the VAST majority of Southerners are not, by any stretch of the word 'racist'. Does the South have a large population of people who are racist? Perhaps, I don't have numbers on hand but I'd believe it. But is that the majority of Southerners? God no! This idea of Southerners being bigots, Bible Thumpers, and oil barons may be true about SOME of the people, but you have generalized the entire area as a massive quarantine zone. I do see how much the First Amendment means to people like them, if people do not fall in line with their way of thinking, they're wrong, but I sense the very same interpretation coming from you MacGuffin. The South is as varied of opinion as the North, just because someone shouts louder or their temper tantrum is given more news coverage does not make that true for everyone.
Hey, Mac, you seemed to have missed these points I made a few pages back. You wouldn't mind addressing them now, would you?

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

seems like a lot of foot stomping and fist shaking to me.
i'd be very surprised if anything comes of all this.


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:06 PM

View PostHasina, on 17 November 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

Hey, Mac, you seemed to have missed these points I made a few pages back. You wouldn't mind addressing them now, would you?
Just possibly not enough people take the idea at all seriously to consider it worth any serious consideration of the issues. :-/

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:13 PM

you need rifles to succeed not petitions. just saying lol

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:23 PM

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View PostHasina, on 14 November 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:
Excuse me? Can we not use the term 'Confederate States'? First, it no longer exists, second, they were whining about 'states rights' while just wanting to keep slaves (while today it's a minority of political whiners because their guy didn't win~), third, it's generalizing an entire part of US as grey coat wearing, bigoted racists, which I can assure you the VAST majority of Southerners are not, by any stretch of the word 'racist'. Does the South have a large population of people who are racist? Perhaps, I don't have numbers on hand but I'd believe it. But is that the majority of Southerners? God no! This idea of Southerners being bigots, Bible Thumpers, and oil barons may be true about SOME of the people, but you have generalized the entire area as a massive quarantine zone. I do see how much the First Amendment means to people like them, if people do not fall in line with their way of thinking, they're wrong, but I sense the very same interpretation coming from you MacGuffin. The South is as varied of opinion as the North, just because someone shouts louder or their temper tantrum is given more news coverage does not make that true for everyone.

Hey, Mac, you seemed to have missed these points I made a few pages back. You wouldn't mind addressing them now, would you?
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I don't think Mac has any interest in addressing your post...but I do!  So, I hereby offer the following address:
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:28 PM

View PostEuphorbia, on 14 November 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

If we allowed Texas to secede, what would stop every other state from doing the same if they so wished?

I live in California and we have the eighth largest economy in the world. If we, Texas, and a small handful of the other more productive states seceded, what would happen to the US? What would it be like for a less productive state like North Dakota?

All I have to say is that many states depend on food and other necessities from the other states. Would these less productive states be able to survive?

It'll never happen.......

Less productive state like North Dakota?
You may want to re evaluate that one.
North Dakota is one of only two states not running in the red.
California is bankrupt (financially and morally)
North Dakota is currently producing oil hand over fist and has more jobs than people to fill them.
Go ahead and gather up the 8 larger states and figure out how to keep paying the illegal immigrants welfare benefits.
We in North Dakota are fine and wont object.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:35 PM

View Postme-wonders, on 15 November 2012 - 06:09 AM, said:

I wonder if those who signed to separate from the US figured out what that would do to their Social Security and Medicare?

Most are smart enough to know that the boomers are going to suck that program completely dry before they are old enough to see one dime of the tens of thousands they contributed.
Even the SSN website admits it will be bankrupt in the not so distant future, yet privatization is bad... and leaving it in failure mode IS the answer???

Got to love the Govt thought process.





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