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#61    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

I wonder could it be that Moses(if) put algae into Nile and wait that they spread?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:00 PM

View Postthe L, on 03 February 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

I wonder could it be that Moses(if) put algae into Nile and wait that they spread?

If he did it wouldn't have spread that fast. As to 'red tides', they do occur on their own.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:11 PM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 03 February 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

If he did it wouldn't have spread that fast. As to 'red tides', they do occur on their own.

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Yes but maybe he observed process. maybe he saw that if you took barrel of red sea water (water with algae) and put it into small riverside it will take cca 2 months that they spread.
So he planed. Used math and set up a plot against Pharao.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:21 PM

View Postthe L, on 03 February 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

Yes but maybe he observed process. maybe he saw that if you took barrel of red sea water (water with algae) and put it into small riverside it will take cca 2 months that they spread.
So he planed. Used math and set up a plot against Pharao.

Since Moses' existance can't even be shown as an actual, historical figure then it's kind of pointless to be speculating on a conspiracy against the Pharaoh IMO.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:23 PM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 03 February 2013 - 09:21 PM, said:

Since Moses' existance can't even be shown as an actual, historical figure then it's kind of pointless to be speculating on a conspiracy against the Pharaoh IMO.

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Yes but ...lets say that he existed...Did he preform his 1st plague with help of algae?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:33 PM

View Postthe L, on 03 February 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Yes but ...lets say that he existed...Did he preform his 1st plague with help of algae?

I hate hypotheticals. That aside, even if he existed it's possible that he saw early signs of a red tide occuring and could have speculated on the remaining plagues as a result of same. Nothing of which requires a miracle of any kind or his personal involvement.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:05 PM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 03 February 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

I hate hypotheticals. That aside, even if he existed it's possible that he saw early signs of a red tide occuring and could have speculated on the remaining plagues as a result of same. Nothing of which requires a miracle of any kind or his personal involvement.

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I like hypotheticals. I wonder could algae spread in Nile...Did it ever happened in history? Can ride tide drew off frogs out of water? ...Anyway thanks.

Edited by the L, 03 February 2013 - 10:09 PM.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:19 PM

I don`t think Moses was at the time of Atlantis 1500 bc`s  but thousands of years later 1300bc`s  but the plague at Amarna was the kind where people bled out of their bodies, they could have dump some bodies in the river causing the water to turn red.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:26 PM

You need a lot of blood to make Nile red.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:20 PM

View Postthe L, on 03 February 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

You need a lot of blood to make Nile red.


Pharaoh's sorcerers demonstrated that they too could turn water into blood, and Pharaoh therefore made no concession to Moses' demands.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:22 PM

And why are we on Moses when this tread is about the minoans and atlantis:)

Edited by docyabut2, 03 February 2013 - 11:23 PM.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:57 PM

Why "surprisingly" warlike? Cultures that aren't warlike don't get to live in the high-rent district for very long.





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